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Re: Coronavirus [Re: cools] #1075732
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Trouble is DD , you do that , then joe Bloggs down the road follows suit then everyone do it . All driving into areas which quite frankly don’t want outside people coming to. Read today about a family all driving into Wales for the day , got turned back by the police. Wales don’t want people coming into them , everybody trying to keep it contained....I feel sorry for the government at the moment , think they’re trying their best in what is such a difficult and frightening situation.. they’re only human no matter how much you dislike them and having such responsibility must weigh heavy. I know they getting advised but still.. yes I do think they should be more clear on their instructions and definitely enforce stay at home, we should now be doing what Italy and Spain are doing ...

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Maybe we should al be asking more questions about 'how'. This hasn't come from a bat.. no way. Spanish flu was another that they never found the source of. First known case was reported on a US military base !
I can't help thinking of the Skripal case too. Very convenient to blame Russia in the first few days, expel Russian diplomats from countries all over the world ... it tends to hide the possible truth, specifically when US had accused Russia of interfering in their elections. Why did the CIA want Skripal in the US ? What's the betting he's being interrogated now for something he knows nothing about. ( that could be fantasy)
I don't trust them one iota. All their tricks are basically coming to roost .


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Going for a day out in Wales, Peak district etc is off limits just now, and should be, but I would have thought driving to the nearest reasonable park in your own area to take the dog for a good run (as only one a day is allowed) would be ok. If not, why did the council just waive parking fees at Wiral's country parks? On the one hand is common sense, on the other hand is seeing how far you can push it, which is daft and dangerous.

Speaking for my daughter's dog, a pavement walk in the neighbourhood wouldn't even blow the froth off the top; a good run in Royden Park or on the beach would do it.

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Well all carry on then....ive just watched a video of a Spanish doctor in Madrid crying because they now are having to take respirators from the over 65s and sedate them and leave them to die, alone. They are so overwhelmed with patients they have to make the decision to try and save the young.

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Its worth reading this https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/opinion/coronavirus-facts.html

Things to remember about viruses

Their tiny size (even though CV is one of the larger ones), the largest virus is roughly the same size as the smallest bacteria, billions on a pinhead etc

Their sheer numbers, they replicate in huge numbers, an infected person can have many millions or billions.

Their high replication means even with a low mutation rate, mutations are common. The larger the virus, the bigger the mutation rate, there is more to go "wrong".

BUT it only takes one single virus to infect a person.


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My deepest wishes go to Boris!


The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020

Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton

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And Government announcing even deeper austerity cuts in the future.


The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020

Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton

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New CV information site from Wirral Council https://www.wirralinfobank.co.uk/


The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020

Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton

We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
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Really good to see the authorities heading their own advice, the irony of some is overwhelming.

Prime Minister - Boris Johnson
Secretary of State for Health and Social Care - Matt Hancock
Chief Medical Officer for England - Chris Witty
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Mental Health, Suicide Prevention and Patient Safety - Nadine Dorries
Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport - Oliver Dowden

Any more?


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Don't be sarcastic , DD. This is far more serious than that . They could have had it for a couple of weeks, and plus when we see the cases in all the London Boroughs, I imagine it's getting pretty tricky to avoid .

100 cases in Liverpool this am and Wirral increased to 32. Those figures are now increasing rapidly. Over 1000 cases throughout Merseyside, it was said last night, and we haven't even started !


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Not know if this is real or you're trolling

If Johnson self isolated from day one you would of said he needs to be out and about, I'm not a fan of Johnson but I would have him over corbin any day, I think myself that they are doing good, don't know what more they can do in these times, you always pull the government down if you find it so bad why not put your name down as a mp and see how you could do a better job, he is ill but instead of staying in bed he is working to help the rest us, please tell us what they should of done or what they are doing wrong now as you seem to know.



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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Really good to see the authorities heading their own advice, the irony of some is overwhelming.

Prime Minister - Boris Johnson
Secretary of State for Health and Social Care - Matt Hancock
Chief Medical Officer for England - Chris Witty
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Mental Health, Suicide Prevention and Patient Safety - Nadine Dorries
Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport - Oliver Dowden

Any more?



Add Secretary of State for Scotland - Alister Jack

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Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton

We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
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add to the mp list nhs workers, delivery drivers, shop assistants, , police, joe public..

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Originally Posted by assassin
Not know if this is real or you're trolling

If Johnson self isolated from day one you would of said he needs to be out and about, I'm not a fan of Johnson but I would have him over corbin any day, I think myself that they are doing good, don't know what more they can do in these times, you always pull the government down if you find it so bad why not put your name down as a mp and see how you could do a better job, he is ill but instead of staying in bed he is working to help the rest us, please tell us what they should of done or what they are doing wrong now as you seem to know.


So you think he is doing a good job, instead of listening to Dominic Cummings with his herd immunity and looking after the economy, oh what was it he said so what if it kills a few pensioners, they might have been better prepared in ordering ventilators and ppe instead of leaving it to the last minute, they are still loathe to lock down completely, so we still have on foot in the other out, and if his government hadn't neglected the NHS and other aspects of social service we would be better placed again, to little to late.

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