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Lack of information, denials about staff use at APH, and now we have managed to export the virus to Wirral, latest on TV this morning is if anyone is infected it is no worse than flu or a bad cold and may not even need medication, it is only risky to one in five of the population, mmm something doesn't sound quite right. think

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CHINA MOVES TO ACT ON WILDLIFE TRADE. Today in China, a proposal "on comprehensively prohibiting the illegal wildlife trade, abolishing the bad habit of overconsumption of wildlife, and effectively protecting the lives and health of the people" was reportedly approved by the National People’s Congress Standing Committee. The welcome move follows a temporary ban on wildlife trade imposed after the coronavirus (COVID-19) was traced back to a market selling all manner of species, dead and alive, in the city of Wuhan.
This cruel trade taking a terrible toll on countless animals, and now people - nearly 80,000 have been affected by, and more than 2,500 have died from, the virus to date - this measure must achieve what it purports, tackling not only illegal but ALL wildlife trade.


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I've just read that in the areas of Lombardia and Veneto there are close links with the Chinese garment industry and Italy's clothing firms. I suppose, it's possible to spread that way too but there is a large population of Chinese there also. Legal and illegal. They get everywhere , popping up like mushrooms.

Don't buy Chinese anything and definitely not Chinese mushrooms ! grin


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A hotel in lockdown , football fans quarantined , a British school closed , Read somewhere that the Iranian Health minister now has also tested positive for the virus and the BBC news website is looking a tad alarming too .. glad I haven't procreated in this world.

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Animals being executed, notably dogs. While it appears unlikely that dogs are primary carriers, some irresponsible owners in quarantine have been letting their dogs out into public places which means if the owners are infected then the virus could be on the dogs fur and getting spread around.

WHO are fairly convinced that while the origin of the Corona virus is bats, they strongly suspect there is another creature that is an intermediately between bats and humans.

HIV was similar, while it originated in one primate (from the common SIV virus) it then went through at least two additional species giving three different types of the virus.

Lets hope Coronavirus isn't similar to HIV which can hide in small parts of the body but still not be completely de-active.


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I don't know the science facts ... try my best to stay away from thoughts of suffering , but if those in "power" think they are ... they won't be forever and they can die with the rest of the poor and helpless and we'll all laugh about it in a millenia. jolly good

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It seem to be a bit more than Hong Kong Phooey. In fact it's travelling at an alarming rate. I wonder if the travel agents are going to reimburse all the Easter hols that families have booked, either here, there, or anywhere if requested.

Quite a number of BA flights to Europe and other places are to be cancelled through March, so I assume they will automatically make refunds .

A couple of cousins have cancelled their cruise to the far east at the end of March. They have received a refund. It should be an option now for everyone.


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Has anyone bought the masks. Boots by me don't sell them and have run out of handwash
Ordered some masks from China Feb 2 - possible April delivery so I decided to make my own until then.

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Ha, if we didn’t laugh we’d cry eh.. pretty scary situation though. I heard today that masks were being bought up and on eBay for astronomical prices, don’t know how true that is. Ye I went to get some hand sanitizer today and none available. Toilet rolls and food be the next thing to start disappearing off the shelves as people panic. Nostradamus knew all these things would happen according to media , the mind boggles!

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Matt Hancock replied everything is being considered when asked about zero hours workers and others without access to sick pay, which means no, so people living hand to mouth have to consider if I don't work i could end up heavily in debt or on the street, and if I do go to work I could spread the virus, so much for Boris's everything possible is being done, he should have added unless it costs money, as for procedures similar have been in place for years in case of a NBC strike.

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Originally Posted by cools
Ha, if we didn’t laugh we’d cry eh.. pretty scary situation though. I heard today that masks were being bought up and on eBay for astronomical prices, don’t know how true that is. Ye I went to get some hand sanitizer today and none available. Toilet rolls and food be the next thing to start disappearing off the shelves as people panic. Nostradamus knew all these things would happen according to media , the mind boggles!


Why would toilet rolls be off the shelves ? Who eats those ?

Blind , Baba Vanga is another clairvoyant who made many predictions.. but I'm not sure that all the predictions attributed to her, were in fact hers or made by others in her name. She died in 1996 and by all accounts predicted 9/ll ,


In 1989, she predicted an attack on the United States:

Horror, horror! The American brothers will fall after being attacked by the steel birds. The wolves will be howling in a bush, and innocent blood will be gushing.

— Predicted in 1989 by Baba Vanga

There is of course another source and that is the bible. Great earthquakes, famine and pestilence. etc. etc.


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Ha, ha ! well done Derek ! Just use soap and sing the national anthem.. as directed by the Mogg.

I know Casper will appreciate that idea smile wink


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i read that coronavirus is killed by alcohol over 60%. If beer is abourt 4% does that mean a minimum of 15 pints..I know both could kill you but at least youd be happy for a while..

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Not if you're on the job . A legless fish ?


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Originally Posted by granny
Ha, ha ! well done Derek ! Just use soap and sing the national anthem.. as directed by the Mogg.

I know Casper will appreciate that idea smile wink


Yes indeed granny Vera Lynn singing on the wireless (its a lovely day tomorrow) all pulling together, all volunteers of course,Boris doing his Churchill bit giving us the two fingers, the cigar replaced by a worn sausage, thoroughly washed and disinfected after use. oshocked

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