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Re: Coronavirus [Re: jimbob] #1074457
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Originally Posted by jimbob
the villages of Eyam in 1665 showed how to contain the plague and stop it spreading throughout Derbyshire. I assume digging deeper by your post regarding compartmentalism dilemma you would have left the village.


There are two parts to the dilemma, the first on an individual level (as you suggest), the second is that the less people that catch it the less it is likely to spread.

The complete Eyam quarantine was put in place only after smaller quarantine zones had failed. I'm sure there will have been other villages where the smaller quarantines had been successful and lesser numbers of people died.

Philosophically the action can be compared to sacrificing people to the "Gods", its all about sacrifice, the question is always about scale, how many do you sacrifice as even retrospectively you can't judge which number is correct.


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Re: Coronavirus [Re: cools] #1074464
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Things are bad in China. Just watched a live report from Animals Asia as they travelled back to their centre in Chengdu. Roads empty, supplies of masks , hygiene supplies are running low, as in disinfectant, hand wash and medical supplies are low etc. Most of the shops are closed , and human food is in short supply. What food is available has doubled in price. Food for the bears is also running out along with medications.
They are expecting the coronavirus to peak in March/April/May

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Re: Coronavirus [Re: cools] #1074481
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See on the news the next plane carrying people from Wuhan are going to be taken to Milton Keynes for the 14 days quarantine.

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So much for the assurances that hospital staff wouldn't be used in the quarantine area at APH, it has been confirmed that some staff have been told to be flexible and must work between the two areas, and have been doing so for over a week our local MP's have been asking for details since Tuesday and have basically been fobbed off with the answer that all actions comply with health guidelines, How can it be that people can just come in without any meaningful consultation and information and take over? there is a risk however small that infection could be carried to the very sick with low immunity, hazarding a guess it looks like a money saving exercise and questions need to be asked and answered.

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All Biotech ...in my tinfoil opinion ... scaremongery indeed .. all scary really

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The news states that one of those in quarantine in APH has threatened to abscond, new rules citing serious and imminent danger have been introduced to prevent people refusing to be quarantined or to stay in quarantine to be legally held.

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Always one isn’t there,, he got flight home and agreed to quarantine for God’s sake just do the 14 days, bloody idiot! Makes me so angry sedate him or her if they have to!

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Originally Posted by casper
The news states that one of those in quarantine in APH has threatened to abscond, new rules citing serious and imminent danger have been introduced to prevent people refusing to be quarantined or to stay in quarantine to be legally held.


I believe it was at Milton Keynes not APH.


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It said Arrowe Park on lunchtime news.

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Originally Posted by cools
It said Arrowe Park on lunchtime news.


Yep, seen both now, the first reports were Milton Keynes but as the later ones are APH so I'd guess they are correct.

Only three days left for the first APH batch or maybe two if they include the travel time, if none show symptoms there is no reason why the travel time can't be included..


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What's going on with these two ?

Quite ironic that considering this couple have been on the BBC sending their daily reports and complaining bitterly about the UK Government for not arranging flights home.

Then yesterday, flights home are arranged but this couple have now been confirmed as having caught the virus and according to their son , he said they were in hospital when he spoke to his mother.

This morning that information seems to be incorrect from BBC update .

Could someone be looking for compensation or is it another example of how the BBC can get things wrong, when relying on others for their news stories..... ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51541352


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Looks like Arrowe park going to receive these folk off the cruise ship to do their quarantine.

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Four people off the cruise ship and taken to Arrowe Park tested positive, they have now been moved to an isolation unit . Hope there’s no more , scary let’s wish them a speedy recovery and this damm virus can be stopped and doesn’t spread .

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Coach drivers twitching a bit.....still conflicting news. Some say only spread by close contact and not airborne, others saying many on the cruise ship quarantined have contracted it through the air conditioning suggesting it is airborne.. 8 out of the 9 previous UK cases are now well

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It was confused by WHO, they defined "close contact" as within 6ft, not actual contact on this occasion.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/transmission.html

There can be no doubt it is airborne, any virus that attacks the surface of the airways is bound to be airborne, that doesn't mean it is not spread other ways as well.

A second phase may be when carriers catch a simple cold and then the disease may spread but as they are symptomless the virus may not be on the surface of their airways.


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