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Britons coming back from China will be quarantined in a NHS facility in Wirral..wonder where that will be then?

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Looks like it’s Arrowpark Hospital according to tv news.

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I hope the Government are at least covering the costs of this specialist care. Seems a bit ridiculous transporting them from Oxfordshire to the Wirral but they wouldn't want them down south would they!

Loads of Universities are concerned over the large number of Chinese students studying in the UK and in the case of Chester University they warned students that went to China for the Chinese New year that they would be quarantined on return.


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I think this stinks. These people chose to go there, live and work there, and do not contribute to the UK economy Who is going to pay for all this? us? Presume Clatterbridge is the target?

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Supposed to be in an accommodation block so pretty much must be Arrowe Park


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An unusual decision indeed, they have facilities just as capable as dealing with this down South,why transport people half the length of the country when containment seems the best policy, what happened to isolation at a military establishment ? maybe there is more to it than meets the eye,hypothetical senario we live on a Peninsula should the very worst happen and the virus spreads into a full blown epidemic it would be simple to isolate, block tunnels, motorways etc, Arrow Park Hospital is oversubscribed as it is, but very true as you say DD they wouldn't want them down South, just finished watching COBRA Mmmm. omg

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I'd rather they stayed at a hospital rather than the stupid idea put forward that they be self quarantined in their own homes.
The gov should set money aside to pay for this, even to paying loss of income and protection of jobs from dismissal by any of them that are affected by
this quarantine including nursing staff and doctors.
I'd have thought plane landing at Speke would have been better than transporting people half the length of the country when containment seems the best policy.

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To most of the population the virus isn't much of a threat in fact just like a short low level flu, but to the weak it can be fatal. This makes it absurd to put it near a hospital. Unless the doctors and nurses are going through a full spray-down each time, just the act of removing their protective clothing can transfer the virus to other parts of their clothing or body.

But its only quarantine, there is very low risk that any of the people are infected, they have already passed the basic checks.

Its yet another warning that the amount of international travel is very dangerous to the human race. If a fatal virus occurs that is as virulent as the common cold but with a very slow incubation period, it would be spread round the world before the first symptoms show.


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To use Clatterbridge is much more viable. Arrowe Park is full of visitors and staff all day long. If it breaks out there, which I hope does not happen, heads will roll in Westminster. There is no way we should have potentially allowed this to spread directly out of the virulent area. Bad bad!

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Isnt the AP Hosp accom blocks supposedly for visitors to terminally ill patients etc???? It will have to be VERY disinfected once the two weeks are over or are they just going to let the people walk out the door?

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Arrowe Park have a staff/student accommodation block iirc. If there are no cases found then no disinfection will be required.

Its pretty unlikely any cases will be found.

Saying all that, it could be a bluff to throw the media off the scent as to the location. Much like Boris's visit to "Cheshire" last October


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They have to go somewhere, why not Arrowe Park, if they have the required accommodation on site ? Better than being in a hospital with wards. I suspect each person will have their own room if they are to be quarantined and no visitors .

I don't think so much International travel is the problem, more like eating wild animals and stray dogs, cats, and anything else they can lay their hands on. Bears paw, monkey, snake, bats. ....
4000 stray dogs and cats were flown to Asia at the end of last year. Live meat. Possibly carrying rabies , worms or any weird disease.
It was bats the source of Ebola, if I remember correctly. I'd also check out your next chicken chow mein, that chicken is not like the chicken we cook. The texture is totally different.


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There are other planes bringing people back too, independent of the British Government. Cathay Pacific is one, and according to one family her grandson and others are not expected to be quarantined.
These people have flown from different provinces. Not Wingywang (or whatever the place is called. ) So there could be quite a lot more from various places now it's hit every province. If we take the embassy staff etc. alone from Wingywang (if there is an embassy)the numbers must add up. US were getting their embassy staff out.


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Another thought although up to now it has not been mentioned, illegal immigrants, most crossing the channel appear to be mainly from Iraq/Iran but those coming from China have been coming in Lorries highlighted by the sad loss of life recently, is there be a possibility that the virus could be carried this way?

If the virus is as low level as DD suggests, then why is it being treated as an epidemic of such huge proportions? it is as DD said to quarantine people who are possibly infected in a hospital amid people with low immunity and susceptible to picking up the slightest ailment a bit risky.

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Statement from Arrowe Park Hospital ...

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On Thursday 30 January, it was confirmed a flight had been arranged to bring around 100 British nationals back to the UK.

Around 100 British citizens will be travelling to the UK from China today (Jan 31). As a precaution they have agreed to remain in isolation for 14 days following their arrival in the UK.

We will be welcoming and housing them in the accommodation block at Arrowe Park Hospital for the duration of that isolation period. Before arrival they will be screened for symptoms. If anyone becomes unwell after arrival they will be treated following appropriate protocols.

This is a separate building and not a hospital ward. In addition, staff working in the hospital will not, at any time, be in contact with the people in isolation.

All services within our hospital will continue to run as usual, including emergency services, outpatients and planned surgery. If you have an appointment, or a procedure planned at Arrowe Park, please attend as normal.

We are working with other local organisations and our national partners to ensure that any disruption to the day-to-day work of the trust can be minimised and to ensure our patients continue to receive the care and attention they need.

We are incredibly grateful to our staff for their professionalism, and to our community for the support they are providing us to respond to a group of people who have affected by some extraordinary circumstances. It would not be possible for us to offer this small measure of relief to people who are vulnerable, and support to ensure they are properly cared for, without your understanding, and your patience.

Kind regards,

Janelle Holmes,

Chief Executive


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