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Re: Election 2019 [Re: granny] #1073198
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Originally Posted by granny


Well, my daughter was influenced during her university years. She is an avid staunch supporter of Corbyn. That's fine, if that's what she believes in, however she is now forwarding me posts that are being posted on pro labour sites that are accusing the Tories of being Natzi's.

So who is responsible for that ? If it's not Labour party members or affiliated groups, then it's got to be others poisoning minds into extremism.


Granny I'am sure your daughter is a well balanced person and able to think for herself, why is it that extremism only appears to come from communism or socialist groups, and I am sorry but I also believe that there are some in the Conservative party that have leanings toward Nazism there is a History of it dating back to WW2 there are extremists in all groups, the Tories have made good use of the media propaganda machine, if a lie is repeated often enough it soon becomes fact, Johnson's verbal and written attacks on the working class and other social groups give an insight into what he really believes in and its not equality nor the well being of the many, all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

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Originally Posted by casper
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Well, my daughter was influenced during her university years. She is an avid staunch supporter of Corbyn. That's fine, if that's what she believes in, however she is now forwarding me posts that are being posted on pro labour sites that are accusing the Tories of being Natzi's.

So who is responsible for that ? If it's not Labour party members or affiliated groups, then it's got to be others poisoning minds into extremism.


Granny I'am sure your daughter is a well balanced person and able to think for herself, why is it that extremism only appears to come from communism or socialist groups, and I am sorry but I also believe that there are some in the Conservative party that have leanings toward Nazism there is a history of it dating back to WW2 there are extremists in all groups, the Tories have made good use of the media propaganda machine, if a lie is repeated often enough it soon becomes fact, Johnson's verbal and written attacks on the working class and other social groups give an insight into what he really believes in and its not equality nor the well being of the many, all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.


Yes, right ,my daughter is pretty smart.. but has never left school ! All teachers seem to have the same ethos and what is more they are very hot headed about it and try to influence others . Once a teacher, always a teacher.
My son went to St Josephs 'fee paying' school in Suffolk, because the bullying he suffered in the comprehensive school was unbearable for him. (at least he had a choice to get out , some don't. and my mum paid.. in case I get condemned for being one of the rich ! ) John McDonnell went to the same school, a fee paying school and wanted to be a priest. My son's degree was in pure philosophy, which amongst other things ,means he can think for himself.
Corbyn went to a private school, and was raised in a Manor House .
Diane Abbot sent her kid to private education .
Yet they consider themselves fit to sit in command of others and strip so many of their own successes , no matter how small , and individual choices.
Quite right about the 'lies' Casper, it worked both ways with constant accusations on Johnson being a liar. You did yourself. When people were pinned down and asked about the lies, they either couldn't or raised the issue of him not leaving the EU by the end of October as he had promised. Forgetting the fact that he'd been stopped in his tracks which is the very reason we had the GE which has turned sour for the losers. This guy felt the same as many but I doubt it did his blood pressure any good !



These types of extremism in this period of time will be not be coming from the Conservative party to the Conservative party, and the only reason for extremism is to get rid of leaders or political parties. The only alternative leader to Boris and the Tories would be who ? It sort of paints a picture, don't you think ?
Anyway, considering Momentum have directed and controlled Corbyn, it's his cross to bear. A new leader, a new dawn and I hope Lisa Nandy goes for it. She would at least get respect unlike some of the other mouthy madam's .

Well that's it from me, I commiserate with all those who received a devastating blow, but it's not each other we should blame, it's the leaders of the party one supports. They are the guilty ones.
So I will wish you a very happy Xmas Casper and friends , enjoy the videos, they are quite amusing and the MEP Lib Dem, eye opening when we consider what they do in the EU and what they are paid.
Love you all loads. XXX




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I posted a link a few posts back by my friend Peter Oborne which shows that Johnson is a pathological liar. Here it is again https://boris-johnson-lies.com/


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Originally Posted by granny
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Well, my daughter was influenced during her university years. She is an avid staunch supporter of Corbyn. That's fine, if that's what she believes in, however she is now forwarding me posts that are being posted on pro labour sites that are accusing the Tories of being Natzi's.

So who is responsible for that ? If it's not Labour party members or affiliated groups, then it's got to be others poisoning minds into extremism.


Granny I'am sure your daughter is a well balanced person and able to think for herself, why is it that extremism only appears to come from communism or socialist groups, and I am sorry but I also believe that there are some in the Conservative party that have leanings toward Nazism there is a history of it dating back to WW2 there are extremists in all groups, the Tories have made good use of the media propaganda machine, if a lie is repeated often enough it soon becomes fact, Johnson's verbal and written attacks on the working class and other social groups give an insight into what he really believes in and its not equality nor the well being of the many, all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.


Yes, right ,my daughter is pretty smart.. but has never left school ! All teachers seem to have the same ethos and what is more they are very hot headed about it and try to influence others . Once a teacher, always a teacher.
My son went to St Josephs 'fee paying' school in Suffolk, because the bullying he suffered in the comprehensive school was unbearable for him. (at least he had a choice to get out , some don't. and my mum paid.. in case I get condemned for being one of the rich ! ) John McDonnell went to the same school, a fee paying school and wanted to be a priest. My son's degree was in pure philosophy, which amongst other things ,means he can think for himself.

Don't be so defensive granny, no one would condemn you for wanting the best for you kids, we may not agree on who is the best to provide it but family comes first, and I'am sure we would all do what needs to be done to protect them.





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After last nights showing of the NHS programme the media pages are full of people denying they voted Tory, that didn't take long, wait until it really hits the fan.

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Wait until the final stats come through for postal votes, it looks like nearly twice as many postal votes as the previous election.


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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Wait until the final stats come through for postal votes, it looks like nearly twice as many postal votes as the previous election.



all in Labour held seats !!!!

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Boris to make changes to the constitution, I get a bit worried when Boris says lets turn up the gas.

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Originally Posted by casper
Boris to make changes to the constitution, I get a bit worried when Boris says lets turn up the gas.


A few changes he promised are steps towards a fascist state.


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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
[quote=casper]Boris to make changes to the constitution, I get a bit worried when Boris says lets turn up the gas.


A few changes he promised are steps towards a fascist state.[/q

First they came for the unemployed the sick and the dying,and I did not speak out, then they came for the trade unions and I did not speak out

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Originally Posted by casper
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[quote=casper]Boris to make changes to the constitution, I get a bit worried when Boris says lets turn up the gas.


A few changes he promised are steps towards a fascist state.[/q

First they came for the unemployed the sick and the dying,and I did not speak out, then they came for the trade unions and I did not speak out



only for 5 years.......thats why its imperative Labour can form a stable viable opposition. Boris can only get dodgy stuff passed if they all dont defy the whip. Might be some green mavericks amongst the new tory MPs.

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