During daylight there was a shooting today in Birkenhead near the Borough Road Shell Petrol Station (near the infamous Larch Road, the only place I know of where a whole road was ASBO'd).
I think with all the stabbings that seem to be the norm these days, i think the people need a vote on harsher penalty's for law breakers like knife crime and shootings, i would hang the lot of them! And if we go down that road again and can't find any one to pull the lever, give me a call i do it for free to rid the place of all the ...!
None of the main parties are talking about local issues such as this - it all seems to be long term stuff.
One thing we could do is a significant increase in military spending to provide jobs, skills, and training to give a structure and direction for many young people. It would also provide work for military contractors building things like tanks, ships, planes etc. This is maybe only part of the solution but I think it would help.
I normally agree with your views but sadly how can changing a tory led country stop these crimes, it will not.
While it is very hard to correct law and order, it is far easier to maintain law and order, this Government has not done enough to maintain law and order, they have cut the number of police considerably.
They have also downrated crime both in reduced sentencing and by police non-attendance at reported crime.
Respect for the law comes from an early age, this current young generation know more about what they are likely to get away with than what they will be prosecuted for. Seeing people avoid a jail sentence despite having 30+ previous convictions is a joke, jails are not for punishment, they are there for the protection of society, when people prove they are persistent criminals then the public should be protected from them.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
We've also had a good rash of stabbings and the odd machete recently round the Wirral, let's hope this Government is sacked on the 12th December.
Ah yes. If in doubt blame it on the Tories. Grenfell Tower fire, Flooding. Shooting in Birkenhead. All caused by the Tories. No question.
If Comrade Corbyn becomes PM within six months the NHS will be running like a well-oiled machine and there will be no more crime.
Labour- for the many. Not the Jew.
Reducing the number of police by 125,000 does not effect law and order then?
Being pro-Palestinian and an anti-Zionist makes you anti-Semitic? I would challenge you to find another non-Jewish UK politician who has done more to fight anti-Semitism than Corbyn most of which he did before all this media lies and hypocrisy arrived.
But you can carry on reading the Daily Fail if you want.
And no, things can't be fixed over-night from the massive destruction that has happened to our Country.
The Tories have spent far more than any other UK Government to give to the few, but us, the public have picked up the debt as we always do from Tory borrowing (Labour have always borrowed less - check the facts).
the Tories were just about to further relax fire safety legislation just before Grenfell. Cutting fire brigade funding of course would not affect our fire safety either would it????
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We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
Police searched a very near location on the same day, around Grasmere Court, Penrith Street (beside the Turner Street car park opposite Birkenhead Library), stolen weapons including a rifle were found in the undergrowth. I believe this was earlier in the day and probably unconnected.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
I normally agree with your views but sadly how can changing a tory led country stop these crimes, it will not.
Changing a Tory led country will not stop these crimes you are quite right, they have already damaged this county with the vicious cuts to public spending and are now telling us they will put things right, is that not an admission that they have failed? we will recruit 20,000 police officers yet they cut 22,000 what annoys me is the gullible will fall for it, their lies have been exposed time and time again and their answer is the same old deny deny deny.
they have already damaged this county with the vicious cuts to public spending and are now telling us they will put things right, is that not an admission that they have failed?
No, its a sign that we've had to tighten our belts due to austerity. The worst is over and we can start investing again.
And if you think its just the Tories who would introduce austerity, think again. Just before the 2010 election:
Alistair Darling admitted tonight that Labour's planned cuts in public spending will be "deeper and tougher" than Margaret Thatcher's in the 1980s, as the country's leading experts on tax and spending warned that Britain faces "two parliaments of pain" to repair the black hole in the state's finances.
They will not lock them up as the prisons are Full. They said 5 years max for carrying a Knife NO excuses will be accepted. Do i believe our law NO as today is about deals as the Prisons are on the verge. American justice is a bit harsh but we could get close and only if we build Prisons to meet Population growth.
Sorry but it doesn't seem to matter who is in power these days, the good doers have screwed it up, someone said lets have first aid bags in pubs, clubs etc in case anyone is stabbed, to me, that's saying its the norm for people to go out and knife another person. The guy who stabbed the couple at the station last year, he was jailed for life yesterday and the judge said he had to serve latest 11 years! The judge should be sacked and the scrum give two life sentences. Those ... in the film need to be rounded up, taken out to the woods made to dig a hole and then a plastic bag put over their heads and push them into the hole, cover them over, same goes for any other ... roaming the streets that's the only way to deal with it. They don't work, pay no taxes, steal everything they have, they are a burden on society the prisons are full, they do what they like because they know they will get off lightly. Exterminate them like the vermin they are! Problem solved.!
No, its a sign that we've had to tighten our belts due to austerity. The worst is over and we can start investing again.
How can we be in austerity when this Government had more money to spend than any other Government by a long long way.
Austerity was for the many and not the few, it was used as an excuse for excessive borrowing to give a LOT of money to the rich while piling the debt on the rest of us.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
Sorry but it doesn't seem to matter who is in power these days
We haven't had a socialist Government for a very long time, Tories have purposely disenfranchised the population.
Never forget which Government rebuilt Britain after WW2, created the NHS (which the medical profession was against), created the welfare system, created a large housebuilding and buying system, improved workers rights etc etc. On top of that Attlee reduced the massive debt left from the war efforts. This is what a socialist Government is about.
I cannot think of a single reason to vote for the Tory party, what have they achieved? Same old promises at election time but nothing happens, remember the "we are all in it together" statements while their wallets are turning into cases and we are in austerity.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
Only reason for some to vote tory is brexit where no bp candidate standing. Thats why is a very misrepresented general electionlll
The only real reason for me is to give Labour one final bloody nose, to show them that Corbyn is the wrong leader.
If they lose they'll hopefully get rid of him and they can wipe the slate clean and start again with a fresh leader that doesn't alienate so many people. Then perhaps we can look forward to a steady rise in popularity leading to a landslide victory in 2024, just like with John Smith and Blair in the 90s.
Because prog ' liberalism and weakness has & is destroying this country.....anyone remb ' useless merseyside police & scummys mps saying after rhys jones in 2007 theyd " sort out " gun /drug crime in uk esp liverpool HA what a joke its 10 times worse esp in south london. I know for a fact years ago , thro police i know, that serious crime was SO bad in merseyside , certain control was handed over to MI6 for a period. Again i ref ' to frankfurt subversive techniques used by the GOV on the uk to weaken it..... " victims of crime get no justice " " a weak court system that has weak sentencing " The list is 200 long.
How any "ordinary" person can even contemplate voting Tory is beyond me. So many times Johnson and his father have shown utter contempt for the working class. Father on channel 4 defending his son's letterbox and bank robber comments by saying he did not go far enough ! Then claiming the general public are illiterate. Johnson in 1995 saying the working man is generally drunk, feckless, criminal, hopeless. How can anybody still vote for him and his party ?
How any "ordinary" person can even contemplate voting Tory is beyond me. So many times Johnson and his father have shown utter contempt for the working class. Father on channel 4 defending his son's letterbox and bank robber comments by saying he did not go far enough ! Then claiming the general public are illiterate. Johnson in 1995 saying the working man is generally drunk, feckless, criminal, hopeless. How can anybody still vote for him and his party ?
Thats the simple answer my friend....this countrys screwed either way. The games rigged. Tory labour doesnt matter. The illusion is that you only have 2 choices. Corbyns weak and he would spend us into recession again. The definition of madness is to repeat an action over and over and expect difference. Thats been the case for 40 years and look how we ended up. 2 party system needs getting rid of. All thats goin on now is how the irish had only 2 bad lisbon treaty choices in 2009 . Nothings changed in 10 yrs. Its like " do u wana be stabbed or shot , to die " " your choice "
Only reason for some to vote tory is brexit where no bp candidate standing. Thats why is a very misrepresented general electionlll
The only real reason for me is to give Labour one final bloody nose, to show them that Corbyn is the wrong leader.
If they lose they'll hopefully get rid of him and they can wipe the slate clean and start again with a fresh leader that doesn't alienate so many people. Then perhaps we can look forward to a steady rise in popularity leading to a landslide victory in 2024, just like with John Smith and Blair in the 90s.
So you wont vote Labour because you don't like Corbyn, but you may vote for a serial liar a bigot and a racist, a man that has voiced his views years ago that the working class are ..., of course he will tell you now that we are all jolly good fellows, and that Corbyn is a Communist spy intent on destroying our country, sorry Gibbo but the damage will be done by 2024 and the Tories will have manipulated the voting system in their favour.
Sorry but it doesn't seem to matter who is in power these days
We haven't had a socialist Government for a very long time, Tories have purposely disenfranchised the population.
Never forget which Government rebuilt Britain after WW2, created the NHS (which the medical profession was against), created the welfare system, created a large housebuilding and buying system, improved workers rights etc etc. On top of that Attlee reduced the massive debt left from the war efforts. This is what a socialist Government is about.
I cannot think of a single reason to vote for the Tory party, what have they achieved? Same old promises at election time but nothing happens, remember the "we are all in it together" statements while their wallets are turning into cases and we are in austerity.
DD,Thats not true Labour (Clement Atlee) was in Government between 1945 and 1950. From then on Tories from 1950 to 1963. That;s when the house building and rebuilding of Britain occurred. I can remember the bus journeys through Liverpool seeing the bombed houses, the rubble and the destroyed communities during the 1950s'. It was seeing the sites cleared and housing being built. and then property people could afford to buy. Businesses reformed and Liverpool was a good place to be in the early 1960s' . People weren't so selfish . Transport was good, jobs were good, still on rations for part of the 50's but we didn't starve , we didn't even go hungry. Any country getting over a war such as the last, takes time it never happened in 5 yrs part of which our soldiers hadn't even returned home.
Best not to twist things to suit ones own agenda.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
Attlee initiated all the Britain's recovery programs the Tories just rode on the back of that.
Originally Posted by wikipedia
The New Towns Act of 1946 set up development corporations to construct new towns, while the Town and Country Planning Act of 1947 instructed county councils to prepare development plans and also provided compulsory purchase powers. The Attlee government also extended the powers of local authorities to requisition houses and parts of houses, and made the acquisition of land less difficult than before. The Housing (Scotland) Act of 1949 provided grants of 75 per cent (87.5 per cent in the highlands and islands) towards modernisation costs payable by Treasury to local authorities.
In 1949, local authorities were empowered to provide people suffering from poor health with public housing at subsidised rents.
To assist home ownership, the limit on the amount of money that people could borrow from their local authority to purchase or build a home was raised from £800 to £1,500 in 1945, and to £5,000 in 1949. Under the National Assistance act of 1948, local authorities had a duty "to provide emergency temporary accommodation for families which become homeless through no fault of their own".
A large house-building programme was carried out with the intention of providing millions of people with high-quality homes. A housing bill passed in 1946 increased Treasury subsidies for the construction of local authority housing in England and Wales. Four out of five houses constructed under Labour were council properties built to more generous specifications than before the Second World War, and subsidies kept down council rents. Altogether, these policies provided public-sector housing with its biggest-ever boost up until that point, while low-wage earners particularly benefited from these developments. Although the Attlee government failed to meet its targets, primarily due to economic constraints, over a million new homes were built between 1945 and 1951 (a significant achievement under the circumstances) which ensured that decent, affordable housing was available to many low-income families for the first time ever
Funny you should mention Liverpool's recovery because unlike other major cities, Liverpool never got its true post-war redevelopment money. The other cities (in turn) got huge programs to regenerate them, Coventry being one of the most notable. It wasn't until the 1980's that Liverpool got individual development money assigned to it and we all remember the battle that led to that coming about. There are still many bomb sites remaining in Liverpool but I remember in the 1960s and 70s there was barely a road where there wasn't still remains of bomb damage.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
Liverpool was boom time in the 1950's and 60s'. New towns such as Kirby and Skelmersdale were built to house the overspill from Liverpool. But I'll take your word for it. In 13 yrs of Tory Government they did nothing , councils did nothing and Labour were victorious.... bloody marvellous ! Well I hope Labour are elected this time, because I couldn't give a shit any longer. Why should I consider the country when everyone else considers their pocket ? I'll join the ranks of 'self ' and see where it gets us in the next 5 yrs. Let's see who the next lot of liars are, Tony Blair was a hard act to follow, but I'm sure McDonnell could do better, and wiping Corbyn's his arse all the way to the dispatch box.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
Kirkby and Skem were completely different stories to each other.
Kirkby was initiated and funded by Liverpool Corporation starting in 1947 (partly using standard Government funds), it applied for new town status but didn't get it. In 1958 it was removed from Liverpool (undermining Liverpool) but eventually joined Merseyside in 1974.
Skem was designated a new town in 1961 as an overflow for Merseyside but is and was never part of Liverpool nor Merseyside as the new town has always been in Lancashire which Liverpool left in 1889. It could be considered that its creation was an attempt to run down Liverpool.
The sacrifice Merseyside made to the war effort was never rewarded, indeed the knocking it got became an opportunity for London to further destroy the area.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
On a seperate note , this false flag " terror " attack seems very convienient with the election coming up just like 2017 bridge attack. Its a set of " coincidences " that shows the utter incompetence & lack of regulations as per weak uks MO
On a seperate note , this false flag " terror " attack seems very convienient with the election coming up just like 2017 bridge attack. Its a set of " coincidences " that shows the utter incompetence & lack of regulations as per weak uks MO
False Flag? Qui Bono . The Tories and Labour arent benefitting from the attack...they are both getting flack about it.. Admittedly it is a big distraction and yet what about the other 110 + victims stabbed to death in London this year.
love to know what the object thrown away, by the "off duty cop" walking away with knife , was. The interview by the Dean of fishmonger hall did seem a bit scripted and i did read that when it first kicked off they thought it was an "exercise"
Farage might have picked up a few bonus points with his comments yesterday and today In Buckley about Isis and Jihadi Virus.
