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Re: Defend Democracy Protests [Re: diggingdeeper] #1071868
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I agree DD , Gaddaffi and Saddam Hussein were monsters but they did keep control , a huge mistake to get involved in middle east etc it's just one nightmare situation...
What's to become of those Isis fighters now though , they will regroup and all start over again in strength, I would have liked them gone for ever ...

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Originally Posted by Gibbo
Originally Posted by granny
Why on earth was John Bercow having private meetings with Junker yesterday ?


Reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZPTZuwwHng


Hahaha ! Not a smile on his unfortunate face.


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Re: Defend Democracy Protests [Re: cools] #1071870
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Originally Posted by cools
I agree DD , Gaddaffi and Saddam Hussein were monsters but they did keep control , a huge mistake to get involved in middle east etc it's just one nightmare situation...
What's to become of those Isis fighters now though , they will regroup and all start over again in strength, I would have liked them gone for ever ...


There are still ISIS members and groups affiliated to them active in Syria.
US , UK, France should have made it clear what they were up to from the word go. They obviously wanted to bring down Assad, the Syrian Kurds although protected by Assad wanted their own Governance in N.E.Syria. The Turkish Kurds are according to Erdogan terrorists, and closely linked with Syrian Kurds. The SDF are the fighting force of the Syrian Kurds; SDF were trying to bring down Assad, (as West were allies in such).; SDF and West were trying to rid NE Syria of ISIS, whilst Assad rid the rest of the country of them; and now the West have pulled out and left them to wallow in their own muck.
Assad will not now protect the Syrian Kurds as he has called them traitors to their own country, butt it looks like Assad will try to regain the land that Turkey is now invading.

Understand ??? What was it all about in the first instance . Young Assad was thought highly of by his own people in most places, and still is, (his father and wife were not, she is still alive ) . There had been severe drought for a few years and the people from the countryside were moving into the towns. The Kurds came in from the mountainous regions but once the trouble started it was Turkey that supported the Free Syrian Army, who were Syrian Arab Army military defectors and TURKEY WAS HAPPY TO ALLOW AT ONE OF THE ONLY PLACES WHERE ISIS RECRUITS COULD CROSS THE BORER INTO SYRIA. When Iraq was liberated the ISIS members went north of MOSUL towards TURKEY and probably crossed into Turkey, I doubt they could have gone backwards.
So I see Turkey in it up to their sweet little necks and I wouldn't put anything past them.
Israel have also had a part to play. We don't hear much about the 200 bombing raids they have done on Syria, but they have , until in the last couple of weeks,when Russia have put the cards on the table.... so now Turkey takes up the baton.
Why did SDF, stick with US ? Because they were paid highly, whilst in places like Aleppo, people were being paid NOT to go to work, resulting in the partial breakdown of the economy and a way of recruiting more. Who was paying them NOT to go to work ... ?
Now the charities want the public to raise funds to help these poor people with rebuilding their infrastructure.
Charities that host names such as Soros and Milliband.
It's like a game of poker ............. and the bottom line is, loss of lives human misery, and mental anguish that will never leave those children who have been faced with and witnessed the trauma inflicted. Even hardened soldiers suffer mental health issues from what they see and deal with. Some of those Syrian babies are 8/9 yrs of age. Another 8/9 yrs they will be taking revenge, somewhere, I have no doubt about that.



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Re: Defend Democracy Protests [Re: diggingdeeper] #1071880
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omg Turkey have bombed US Special Forces in Northern Syria

and US have sent 3000 military to Saudi Arabia.


(wrong topic, sorry DD but it's just following on the previous. )


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Re: Defend Democracy Protests [Re: granny] #1071881
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Originally Posted by granny
US have sent 3000 military to Saudi Arabia.


Iran next?


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Re: Defend Democracy Protests [Re: diggingdeeper] #1071892
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So, Kier Starmer thinks there should be another referendum.
He says as :
a) Do you want to accept this deal ?
b) Do you want to stay in the EU ?


NO, NO, NO , Mr Starmer... we have already voted to leave the EU

a) Do you want to accept this deal ?
b) Do you want to leave with NO deal ?


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Re: Defend Democracy Protests [Re: diggingdeeper] #1071979
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These are our 'politicians', they are all becoming a laughing stock.

This has to be one of the best ever . She hadn't even read the proposed Withdrawal Agreement at this point !


https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/iain-dale/iain-dale-is-forced-to-correct-lib-dem-brexit/


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Re: Defend Democracy Protests [Re: diggingdeeper] #1072033
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And so it goes on and on and on and on!!!!!!!!! When will it end ? I don’t think whatever deal is presented , it could be a great deal but I just don’t think we will ever leave stinking EU mafia ... All this will have been for nothing, beam me up Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by cools
And so it goes on and on and on and on!!!!!!!!! When will it end ? I don’t think whatever deal is presented , it could be a great deal but I just don’t think we will ever leave stinking EU mafia ... All this will have been for nothing, beam me up Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!


I think the same Cools. Everything is positioned to overturn the 2016 referendum. If that does happen, the country will be the worse off in the long run, well for a generation at least. Those who voted will never vote again IMO, and the youngsters aren't interested.

I don't understand why the rhetoric about 'workers rights' keeps getting banded about as an issue . Maybe someone can explain because 'workers rights' can surely be altered , changed, upgraded, or whatever once we can have our own jurisdiction, laws, rules, sovereignty and anything else we will secure, by leaving the EU ?

Please explain , someone .


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Re: Defend Democracy Protests [Re: granny] #1072039
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Originally Posted by granny
I don't understand why the rhetoric about 'workers rights' keeps getting banded about as an issue . Maybe someone can explain because 'workers rights' can surely be altered , changed, upgraded, or whatever once we can have our own jurisdiction, laws, rules, sovereignty and anything else we will secure, by leaving the EU ?

Please explain , someone .


Yep, project fear kicking in again. Our workers rights progressed quite well compared to most of Europe before we joined the EU (ECC or whatever).

I wonder how long before the media start stating that the Government could start charging window tax again?

We need one Government who are directly answerable to the people.


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The Labour Party commuted suicide yesterday with senior leaders (excluding Corbyn) coming out in favour of remain.

You can’t be a principled Democratic Party and go against a democratic result when it suits you.

Worse still, this has opened the door for another four years of tories robbing money from the worlds fifth richest nation.

Well done McDonnell, Abbott and Thorrnberry, you out manoeuvred yourselves instead of following your leader who stood a chance of winning an election.


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Re: Defend Democracy Protests [Re: diggingdeeper] #1072045
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Thanks for reply on 'worker's rights' DD

Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
The Labour Party commuted suicide yesterday with senior leaders (excluding Corbyn) coming out in favour of remain.

You can’t be a principled Democratic Party and go against a democratic result when it suits you.

Worse still, this has opened the door for another four years of tories robbing money from the worlds fifth richest nation.

Well done McDonnell, Abbott and Thorrnberry, you out manoeuvred yourselves instead of following your leader who stood a chance of winning an election.



Purely for face value and obstinacy some of these people have got themselves into such a corner, they have little to no way of wriggling out now, making themselves look stupid. Corbyn is in that mix too. They have to keep up the pretence.


There is of course, many who have spouses with vested interests and top jobs in the EU network of one degree or another. Many of whom WILL lose their jobs. Are these the jobs that Corbyn keeps batting on about, along with 'worker's rights' ? If so, I couldn't give a monkey's about that corrupt brigade in Brussels losing their jobs.

Not sure what you mean about the Tories robbing money. If you refer to the Austerity of the UK , which we did actually come through better than other EU countries, well the whole of the EU has also had the Austerity pinned on it for the last 10 yrs.
That was not a political issue, that was recovery position. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10162176

Many have a personal interest IMO, and others will now be wondering what the next step on the promotion ladder might be. No jobs in Brussels or the EU Parliament for them now. Maybe we will get back to true politicians rather than 'career politicians' who cosy up for the next job.

There were a few more besides the three you mention, who showed their contempt for the 'democratic vote' of the people .


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Austerity was only 10% of the money that was handed to the rich few, the other 90% was primarily funded by the ridiculous amount of money the Government borrowed. We have come out of the austerity very poorly, as a nation we might be rich but the average person has lost a lot. Both personal debt and national debt is continuing to escalate.

There was never any need for the austerity program in the UK, it was an invention to undermine the general population. Gordon Brown had done a fantastic job as Chancellor in minimising the effect of the global recession.

Corbyn as a person is a leaver however he has had no choice as a democratic leader but to follow the choice of his party.

Conference (and hence party policy) is against remain. These three cowboys are undermining the whole party and its socialist principals. The previous stance of the party was somewhat confusing, that has now changed to being untenable. TBH I expected better of McDonnell, the other two are irrelevant.


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Re: Defend Democracy Protests [Re: diggingdeeper] #1072075
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Ah well... to the lot of them lamethrower

Brexit Party , here we come !


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