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WHERE IS/WAS TONER ROAD, LISCARD #1071639
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Can anyone tell me where Toner Road was in Liscard in 1934. A descendant sailing to Canada gave 36 Toner Road, Liscard, Wirral as her last address in the UK.

I have checked an street atlas from 1997 for Merseyside but cannot see a Toner Road anywhere.

Hope someone out there may be able to help.

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Re: WHERE IS/WAS TONER ROAD, LISCARD [Re: moretonkiwi] #1071640
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It doesn't appear in any street directories, census forms or Newspapers in or around the Wallasey area.

If it is bad handwriting and difficult to decipher, there is/was,

Tower Rd, Birkenhead Rd, Birkenhead.
Tower Rd, Birkenhead Rd, Seacombe

Tower St, Liscard.


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Re: WHERE IS/WAS TONER ROAD, LISCARD [Re: moretonkiwi] #1071645
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If it's any help, Tower Street in Liscard was one of the roads that were demolished in the 1960's to build the Cherry Tree shopping centre.

Re: WHERE IS/WAS TONER ROAD, LISCARD [Re: bert1] #1071651
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Thank you for looking this up for me. The manifest has the address quite clearly printed, so it's back to the drawing board. Enjoy the weekend.

Re: WHERE IS/WAS TONER ROAD, LISCARD [Re: bert1] #1071652
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Thank you for checking for me Bertieone - have rechecked the shipping manifest and the address is quite clearly printed as Toner Road. Have checked the Tower Road/Street suggestions in the 1939 census in case there is still a family member living there, but no luck so it is back to the drawing board again.

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What was the surname or preferably the full name(s)? It might be easier to do this backwards.


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Re: WHERE IS/WAS TONER ROAD, LISCARD [Re: diggingdeeper] #1071667
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Hi, Her name was Ginette Margaret Mary Maria Topham, formerly Smith, nee Price. She originally sailed to Canada in April 1927 (after she was widowed) and appears to have returned to the Wirral in early 1934 and leaving again in August 1934 to return to her home in Winnipeg.

Prior to going to Canada originally she lived at 10 Rockville St in Rock Ferry and I have records of all of her children going to Canada except for her eldest child (a daughter named Ethel Smith) I haven't been able to trace a marriage or death for Ethel in the UK, nor find her on any shipping lists to Canada so I had been wondering if Ginette had returned to the UK in 1934 to visit her.

Not sure where to go from here - any ideas would be welcome.

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You may wish to check the following and see where it takes you.

We know Genette MMM Price married William Smith, daughter Ethel was registered, Birkenhead, March Qtr, 1891, baptised March 4,1891, Birkenhead, above parents

It might just be a coincidence or another family connection to the Topham's, you will have to see if there's a link between the Topham, Genette married and the Ethel marriage.

Wallace Clare Topham married Ethel Smith, 1921, St Paul's Tranmere, Fathers, William Smith, Harry Topham.

Both 27 years of age, there might be an explanation for this, Ethel didn't want to appear older than her husband.

The 39 Register finds them in Norwich, both born 1894, Ethel, February 7, woman who tried to hide their birth year never changed their birth day/month. If you ever get her birth certificate, this date may tally.

There's a death in Norwich, Ethel Topham, aged 51, 1944, giving a birth date 1893, again different from the 39 register.

Wallace Clare Topham remarried later

Only sight of the 1921 marriage certificate will give you addresses and fathers occupation.

When Genette visited, they may have lived in Wallasey, the electoral rolls for Wallasey may help with that.


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Wallace C Topham is on the Norwich Electoral Roll, 1931.


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From the shipping manifest, Towers St

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Burial, Bebington Cemetery. 1921.



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Re: WHERE IS/WAS TONER ROAD, LISCARD [Re: bert1] #1071698
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Great minds think alike!. I was just going to message you to say I had found Genette on the manifest for the 'Athenia' coming home to Wallasey and that the address was 38 Tower St. Had also found that her second husband Thomas was buried at Bebington Cemetery. Find a Grave has a photo of the gravestone and as well as Thomas it has their son John killed in 1st WW and it also has Genette's death details, although she is actually buried in Winnipgeg. Have looked at 38 Tower St in the 39 Register and it is a family called Upton.
Time for some cross checking now as there are Uptons in the family tree as well. Will also do some more digging on Ethel's possible marriage - thanks for that bertieone

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The Upton's were living at 38 Towers St in 1939, previously, entered in the 1938 directory which would have been printed in late 37 was Joseph Youds, 38 Towers St. At 32 Towers St, 1938 directory was Albert Price, perhaps related?

The link between the marriages,

Wallace Clare Topham's father was Harry Topham, he was registered John Henry Topham, 1871.

Thomas Topham, registered, 1867. Genette's husband.

John Henry and Thomas were brothers, parents, John Topham, Annie Topham, nee Adamson.


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Re: WHERE IS/WAS TONER ROAD, LISCARD [Re: moretonkiwi] #1071703
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The name given in the 1938 Directory, though abbreviated is, Albert Alfred Price, 32 Towers St.

I believe Genette's brother, Albert probably had a full house and she stayed with a neighbour.


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Re: WHERE IS/WAS TONER ROAD, LISCARD [Re: moretonkiwi] #1071727
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Many thanks for all your help Bertieone. School holidays are happening at the moment (here in New Zealand) and have grandchildren staying for a few days, so will get back to the family History when they have returned to their homes.

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