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Forget it if youre just 'old' !
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24th Jul 2019 10:11am
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Was checking out mobility equipment this morning , and comparing prices. The VAT on prices makes a chunky difference . Not concerned on personal grounds, but wondered about the logic of the rules which exempt some people from paying the VAT.
"Note that it is illegal to make false declarations. The illness or disability must also be of a long-term 'chronic' nature. Old age or a broken bone that is healing for example, do not qualify."
So for example -- if your gran is 90 odd , has no particular disability but obviously at that age does not have the ability to walk around Chester or along the towpath with the family without a scooter , shouldn't she be just as entitled to get exemption from VAT as someone of 70 who because of arthritis , cant do those things with their family either without a scooter? Its not a means tested thing , old age is as permanent as any other chronic disability , so I really cant see the difference?
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Re: Forget it if youre just 'old' !
[Re: goodoldphil]
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29th Jul 2019 4:06pm
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I thought some of your comments regarding the people on mobility scooters were a bit uncharitable, in many cases, the obesity of the people on these scooters will have been caused by their disablement and their inability to exercise properly rather than sheer gluttony, and that many of them would far prefer to walk if they were able to, as you are lucky enough to be able to do. Apart from water retention and some very rare medical problems, if you are overweight you have eaten too much food, there can be a thousand and one excuses but it doesn't alter the fact that a surplus of food has been eaten. If someone has reduced mobility it is even more important to keep their weight down or put themselves at risk of things like strokes. Saying words like "your weight isn't your fault" is doing them no favours whatsoever. I am overweight and it is by my own choice, I choose to keep my weight just under the obese mark for my own quality of life. It is not "wrong" to be overweight per se, it is wrong to fool people (or yourself) about weight and the potential health impact, it is also wrong to impact other peoples' quality of life by being unnecessarily overweight.
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Re: Forget it if youre just 'old' !
[Re: goodoldphil]
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1st Aug 2019 9:26am
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I thought some of your comments regarding the people on mobility scooters were a bit uncharitable, in many cases, the obesity of the people on these scooters will have been caused by their disablement and their inability to exercise properly rather than sheer gluttony, and that many of them would far prefer to walk if they were able to, as you are lucky enough to be able to do. Thats quite right. Although your wasting your time trying to tell people with no idea whats its like to be in that situation, I hope one day he is and someome comes out with that rubbish to him,
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Re: Forget it if youre just 'old' !
[Re: venice]
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6th Feb 2020 12:52pm
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I walk everywhere Now as People getting on Buses Coughing and Sniffling and Not one Tissue in sight. I have got of Buses what looked like the Passenger`s are infected with Flu and only a Few use there hand to Cover when Coughing. Started doing it a few Winter ago Now walk everywhere with head Phones in. Thoe legs feel that someone has tied weights to my legs as it seems like every month a small pebble has been added to legs. If every get a wheel chair going to rig a Car battery to it and your seem me Flying down the New Chester Road in my B17 Flying suit just need Goggles and hat during ice Blizzard and i feel like bleeding Biggles
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