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Re: TV licences [Re: diggingdeeper] #1070008
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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
I’m well retired, my only income is my pension, I volunteer for a charity two days a week mainly because I really enjoy the work.

I’m not as old as granny but I’m older than you @sven.

Mentioning the way your dad brought you up sounds like you need/want to talk to someone?


This is hilarious....caspers just said " no im not angry " i never said you actually where ,hence the inverted commas....!!??
Im takin the pee.
Just like when you appeared to think i was angry.
As for " talking to someone " whether you mean a doctor or being on here , i need neither. I dont care for people at all as ive mentioned many many times.
Most are loud obnoxious wannabes or chavs .
Very few people impress me . I say again.
Why is wirral really that good to you ??? Wallasey liscard ford noccy bhead etc are run down chavy sh** holes and heswall thingwall willaston caldy west kirby ( sailing click ) is plastic fur coat no knickers ponce world who if plonked into london say for example wouldnt be able to buy a 3 bed terrace in shoreditch.
Yes granny its a diff world and now still in 2019 the wirrals meaningless unheard of to londoners. Yes that HASNT changed thats the point.
Im leaving for a safer quieter , zero chav ,less kids less pollution more sun more efficient country when i retire not crappy uk i can tell u.
As for being " insecure " thats just not me. I tell it like it is and dont care really. I knock things that need knockin & say the offensive....guess why ? I think its true.
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Re: TV licences [Re: diggingdeeper] #1070009
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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Thank god I retired in my forties raftl oldman


Must be thanks to your friend Keef then DD grin

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Cant imagine where one would go in the world to find less problems that we have in the UK . Arent people pretty much the same everywhere Sven ?

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Originally Posted by venice
Cant imagine where one would go in the world to find less problems that we have in the UK . Arent people pretty much the same everywhere Sven ?


Youve got to read my posts properly....its always in ref to wirral or uk smile

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To return to the original subject of the thread, I'm a bit uncomfortable about the whole 'free licence for anyone over 75' thing. I rely on a state pension and appreciate it, but will lose out when I hit 75 as I'm just over the benefit threshold. Some family members (dead now) were financially comfortable and very well able to pay a licence fee; I used to think that money could have been much better used elsewhere. Same with the winter fuel payment. Drawing the line is the hard part. Maybe they'd have been better to keep it free for anyone below the threshold for paying tax, rather than using Pension Credit? Don't know how they would monitor that, though.

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Originally Posted by Greenwood
To return to the original subject of the thread, I'm a bit uncomfortable about the whole 'free licence for anyone over 75' thing. I rely on a state pension and appreciate it, but will lose out when I hit 75 as I'm just over the benefit threshold. Some family members (dead now) were financially comfortable and very well able to pay a licence fee; I used to think that money could have been much better used elsewhere. Same with the winter fuel payment. Drawing the line is the hard part. Maybe they'd have been better to keep it free for anyone below the threshold for paying tax, rather than using Pension Credit? Don't know how they would monitor that, though.


Good point Greenwood, my mum in law was in the same situation just a few pounds over the threshold, had it been her she would actually have been worse off than those on pension credit after paying the licence fee.

Re: TV licences [Re: muzzy2] #1070058
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Same here. Not that I am eligible for a free license yet, but I'm not eligible for pension credits either because like those mentioned above, I am about £2 per week over the threshold.
Whoever says that people on pension credits are the poor in our community , with all the added benefits , it is in fact those who tried to pay into a small private pension for their old age that have once again come up against the rock and a hard place and get nothing apart from rising bills and council tax increases.
I don't want to hear anything from any political parties, to use this as a vote catcher.. they have all assumed that if you aren't wealthy you're on pension credits.. well it's a lie and that's why many of us sit and freeze in our beds all winter. If the free tele license is now to be removed for the over 75's... we might as well vote for euthanasia. Now, which political party will put that in their manifesto ?

Even Rachel Johnson (Lib Dem, Boris's sister) on her Sky programme yesterday was spouting how most pensioners from the baby boom era are all very well off and those that aren't are on pension credits, so no one will suffer. Another political party out of touch !
All I can say is that the politicians should actually engage themselves more with reality.. instead of being locked in the London bubble. If they don't know what's going on, they shouldn't be doing the job they are getting paid for.


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Re: TV licences [Re: muzzy2] #1070059
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.... and as all the political parties will now be looking for new ways to steal the electorate , they need ideas and no doubt another quiz put on the internet for those who consider themselves better able to make suggestions , rather than the people who it concerns and who possibly don't even have the internet !

Nothing new, just the same old merry go round, that's jarred us all off.

signed
One very disillusioned , grumpy, unforgiving, Royalist.


Maybe one idea would be to introduce a law where once a person is receiving their state pension, they should no longer be working.
I find it bad that jobs the young people need are being hogged by those who reach pensionable age but continue to work and some are working until they're 75-80 .
If they want to work, then no state pension until retired. That should accumulate some money in the coffers for the Government .

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Re: TV licences [Re: muzzy2] #1070064
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Heres an idea just give it free after 75 , with a turnover of 3 billion and profit of 130 mil and being public owned . Stop moaning as a obsessed by money uk corp that soon people will just turn off from & stop paying to make a point.
The mantra of taking things away from people who have paid into all their lives just to me is the stereotypical uk MO . Yawn i hate it.
" mmmm what can take back ? or make people pay more for when they get less "

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Originally Posted by svenlock68
Heres an idea just give it free after 75 , with a turnover of 3 billion and profit of 130 mil and being public owned . Stop moaning as a obsessed by money uk corp that soon people will just turn off from & stop paying to make a point.
The mantra of taking things away from people who have paid into all their lives just to me is the stereotypical uk MO . Yawn i hate it.
" mmmm what can take back ? or make people pay more for when they get less "


Oh sven and there I was thinking you didn't care about us.
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The over 75 licence was only brought in nineteen years ago so nobody will have being paying in for it all their lives.

It was a straight bribe for votes along with many other measures.

I disagreed with its implementation, it should only have been households where everybody was over 75 or perhaps 65 would have made sense.

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Originally Posted by svenlock68
Originally Posted by venice
Cant imagine where one would go in the world to find less problems that we have in the UK . Arent people pretty much the same everywhere Sven ?


Youve got to read my posts properly....its always in ref to wirral or uk smile


You've lost me (admittedly it doesn't take much these days blush) I don't understand your reply ? You said

"Im leaving for a safer quieter , zero chav ,less kids less pollution more sun more efficient country when i retire not crappy uk "

So Im asking what country or countries have you noted outside the uk , that fit your above criteria?

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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
The over 75 licence was only brought in nineteen years ago so nobody will have being paying in for it all their lives.

It was a straight bribe for votes along with many other measures.

I disagreed with its implementation, it should only have been households where everybody was over 75 or perhaps 65 would have made sense.


Looking on the bright side at least we get something from Labour with their bribes something that can't be said for the Tories.

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Originally Posted by svenlock68
Heres an idea just give it free after 75 , with a turnover of 3 billion and profit of 130 mil and being public owned . Stop moaning as a obsessed by money uk corp that soon people will just turn off from & stop paying to make a point.
The mantra of taking things away from people who have paid into all their lives just to me is the stereotypical uk MO . Yawn i hate it.
" mmmm what can take back ? or make people pay more for when they get less "


Oh sven and there I was thinking you didn't care about us.
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Ive got time for old pensioners at times not young wasters who have contributed nowt .
Theres to many of gormless useless lazy youth

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Cant imagine where one would go in the world to find less problems that we have in the UK . Arent people pretty much the same everywhere Sven ?


Youve got to read my posts properly....its always in ref to wirral or uk smile


You've lost me (admittedly it doesn't take much these days blush) I don't understand your reply ? You said

"Im leaving for a safer quieter , zero chav ,less kids less pollution more sun more efficient country when i retire not crappy uk "

So Im asking what country or countries have you noted outside the uk , that fit your above criteria?


How about switzerland... not good for kids, no tax , no crime , 26 cantons that ask you what u want instead of imposing it (via referendums) , clean air , clean streets , quieter reserved people. Ok weather. Lovely scenery Efficient health care and transport....very expensive but do able

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