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Re: Tax refund
[Re: lincle]
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13th Jun 2019 7:06pm
13th Jun 2019 7:06pm
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diggingdeeper

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A good question and one I've mulled over in the past myself.
I eventually took the line that when signing-on, it is taken from the last day you WORKED, not from when you were last paid. Therefore it is an income for the period you were working not the period after you were working, the important factor being "when was it earned" income.
It could also be taken as a repayment of a debt which would be obscure to call it "income" at the time it is paid back, albeit it was earned income when it was "loaned".
So basically I didn't fess up BUT the benefits people are renowned for making up rules as they go along so there is always a risk and even if you are right it can take over 9 months to sort it out.
The correct course of action is to tell them and let them decide, then appeal if you think they are wrong but of course you could lose 5 weeks of UC in between.
The above is assuming it was arrears for work (backpay, pay arrears etc), there may be a situation where it is unearned income in which case it would be difficult to say it wasn't income on the day you received it, being unearned the only date possible is the receipt date?
This is very much my own opinion, its up to you to decide for yourself. I should mention my case wasn't UC it was under the old benefits system.
Last edited by diggingdeeper; 13th Jun 2019 7:09pm.
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Re: Tax refund
[Re: lincle]
#1070520
26th Jun 2019 5:21pm
26th Jun 2019 5:21pm
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Update . After contacting U..C regarding holiday pay the following comment was received " Any payment from an employer will be deducted ftom UC during the UC assessment period it was received in the bank irrespective of what period it covered" . Still not sure on tax rebates . Ask them for a reference to the section of law that states this ..... and do not accept any reference to guidelines, Universal Credit like all other benefits are governed by Laws not guidelines. If they do state a guideline, ask for a copy of the guideline (which they normally refuse). You can also state the payment was from a "former employer" not an employer.
The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020
Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton
We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
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