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Re: Project Fear III [Re: diggingdeeper] #1064997
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do us all good to eat less anyway... Fishing and rustling lessons anyone?

If i place an order today apparently i can get it delivered in 24 hours so if theres a day or 2 delay because of extra customs checks i order couple days in advance so there will still be a stream of goods entering. Fresher stuff will just have to be eaten sooner rather than sitting in your fridge or veg rack for a week or more. Possible increase in cost if lorry drivers need 2 days pay instead of 1 which spread across a whole lorry load of goods will not be much. They will find ways round it like having customs checks done on the ship
Might be a boost for our agricultural industry to grow more



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Mentioned on news the other day about the possibility of a referendum for a unified Ireland. Is this more scare mongering or someone talking through their back teeth ?

Also, if SNP get their hopes and stay with the EU eventually, does that mean there will be 100 miles of hard border between Scotland and England ?

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still eating the onions and shallots i picked from my allotment back in october so cant understand all the fuss about dutch onion sellers flogging us their onions

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Porsche fear they might have to put up prices in the event of a Brexit No Deal

"A 10% surcharge would see the cost of an entry-level Porsche 911 rising from £93,110 to £102,421."

Thats swung it for me i am now a remainer .!!

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We should have stuck with the original commitment. There wouldn't have been any need for 'project fear''

Not politicians, not parliament , not lobby groups, .... just OUR VOTE.




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Mark Carney(Bank of England) has suddenly changed his tune. Is this ' project fear' in reversal. Hoping to get a deal through rather than a no deal ?

https://politicaluk.co.uk/2019/03/a...RgSPxAYU5P-xsgXY19oaHN4crjBq0n93x3AMyTo8

Bank of England’s Governor, Mark Carney said: “If you took the scenarios that we had for a No Deal and you referenced the disruptive and the disorderly, and it depends what your counterfactual is – so what are we comparing it to – if we compare those as we did in November to our forecast of the economy at the time which presumed something broadly consistent with the Prime Minister’s deal…the potential hit to GDP was just under 5% in the disruptive and just under 8% in the disorderly.

“The items I indicated earlier, given our modelling of the situation, would pull back somewhere between 2% to 3.5% of those losses depending on the scenario.

“Since we released the scenarios in November there have been some constructive developments in terms of preparedness.

“That reduces the level of economic shock.”


The Financial Policy Committee (FPC) stated: “Some disruption to cross-border services is possible and, in the absence of other actions by EU authorities, some potential risks to financial stability remain.”


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As the chance of a no-deal Brexit happening increases, a lot of those that made wild statements are starting to reign in their thoughts for fear of being proved wrong.

Unfortunately the way things are going we are going to end up with a bad deal rather than a no deal. If we left on WTO rules the EU would immediately cobble together some sort of trade agreement, the EU is not stable enough to ride the effects of a no deal Brexit.

Ireland is of course piggy-in-the-middle but solutions are in place for other countries in a similar position, it is not the only country with an EU border.


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Theresa May latest "Theresa May has asked the EU for "one more push" to get her Brexit deal through Parliament and warned that, if it fails, "we may never leave at all".

Mission nearly accomplished

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All very nail biting stuff isn't it ? Are Ladbrokes taking bets on this ?


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Ladbrokes only publish Brexit bets on the chances of another referendum and its outcome.

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For all the people that died in our wars lets not let their lives be wasted.



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Do you really believe we live in a true democracy DD? that our choices are not manipulated by those in power, that the law is colluded with and often thwarted to protect individuals in power or their political parties, that we are granted freedoms to exercise our rights, but those freedoms are so tightly bound in legislation that they are difficult to use, that to get true justice you must have the means to pay for it, that those that fought for our country are sleeping on the streets or are denied justice in claims against the MOD and finally to those that put this shite together don't use their sacrifices to promote their political ends.

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No we don't live in a true democracy and we do suffer from manipulation but that is not reason to give up and allow us to become totally controlled by dictators.

Many people died in WW1 and WW2 so that we would not be under the control of Germany.

The EU is dominated and controlled by Germany, the Mediterranean countries (and others) have very little say and are kept in poverty by the EU/Germany. Thankfully because we didn't join the Euro we aren't quite in the same position as those countries and so we aren't totally hand-cuffed to the EU.

There is nothing "fair" about the way the EU operates, it's policies maintain German domination and further inflicts more economic damage on the majority of poorer EU countries.

We pour something like £100bn a year into the EU (much more than Germany), if this was helping to bring the poorer countries into profitability then it would have some justification but while it doesn't and while we can't even get ourselves into profit then it is money wasted. In reality that money is actually boosting Germany's dominance and wealth.

Try and work out why Germany is prospering, their wages aren't low, their products are dear, their strength is using weak countries to make profit for them. This is hardly the spirit of a "democratic community" it is economic take-over and dominance over countries kept in servitude.


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My comments weren't so much about the EU, but about those flag waver's that spout their jingoism and talk about democracy, then scuttle off to some tax haven somewhere, the people of self interest those that treat others with contempt, the politicians that tell us that there is no magic money tree yet throw away millions in bribes and hush money to cover up their bungling, sorry rant over.

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The UK (mainland) is classed as one of the biggest corporate tax havens, then we have Jersey and the Isle of Man as dependencies, then we have our overseas territories Virgin Islands, Bermuda, Cayman Islands and Gibraltar.

Elsewhere inside the EU we have Ireland, Netherlands, Luxembourg and Germany (and Switzerland to all intents and purposes).

The rich run the countries, the rich make sure that the tax loopholes stay open.


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