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Inside Europe

Has anyone watched this programme. Monday at 9pm BBC2.? Part 2 was on last night with another to follow next Monday.

Very interesting what goes on behind the scenes but they're a powerful bunch of head workers . No wonder Mrs. May is having a tough time of it.

Alarm bells all the way , particularly in the Greek crisis when German demands asset stripping Greece's national treasures to the tune of E50 billion ! Modelled on West Germany's privatisation of East Germany's property.
It all paints a rather ugly picture of what Europe will eventually become ( through my own interpretation)


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It’s just part of the continual process of Germany taking over Europe.

The only way to defeat the German advance is for every EU country to default on their German loan repayments.

There is open talk now of the EU controlling the few remaining sovereignty remains of the individual countries like all taxation and military.


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It evidently hasn't penetrated to whatever part of Wirral you people hail from but WW2 is now officially over. Indeed it has been over now for over 70 years.

I appreciate how too many films like "The Dam Busters" or "Where Eagles Dare" attempt to persuade you we are still at war but really it is fiction not fact. As is your evident delusion that the EU is simply the third Reich cunningly renamed by crypto-nazis like M. Barnier and Junker.

I really cannot understand why you cannot distinguish between a nation and a Union of Nations. The EU consists of 28 nations, all as keen as you are to retain their unique national identities and 'Sovereignty'. The EU has NO law-making powers in any of them. ALL laws in the UK are the result of the UK government passing them, by agreement not by force. As are all laws in France Germany, Italy Spain and all other nations in Europe.

Nor is the EU run by unelected bureaucrats any more than the UK is. It has a parliament and you can vote for or against MEPs and uses them to pursue issues just as you can with UK MPs. It has its bureaucrats of course, just as we do. But far, far fewer. I believe the EU has about 35,000 to administer 28 nations. For comparison, the NHS alone has an estimated 187,000 bureaucrats! You can look up for yourselves how many civil servants. local government officers and so on we have in the UK

So the claims that we are 'run' by unelected bureaucrats who are all nazis or crypto nazis or dedicated to the downfall of the UK are total monumental bollocks.

It is uncritical belief in this sort of poisonous nonsense that has led the UK into the mess we now find ourselves in, with commerce and industry 'deinvesting' in the UK or at least planning to do so when we leave the EU.

It will be interesting to see who gets the blame when your pensions are insufficient to feed you let alone keep you warm, and your children find themselves struggling to survive with no work, and your grandchildren going substantially uneducated due to lack of cash. It will be anyone but the real culprits. The EU will be blamed. The Labour party, the Conservative party, the Unions, Capitalism, Russia, the USA. etc etc. Anyone but those really responsible:

The idiots who voted leave. YOU!

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You might consider WWII to be over, but others certainly don't , particularly the Jews. They, who did not fit into Germany's ideals of a perfect society !

Then Germany marched into various other countries with the same intentions of putting all those with disabilities, Jews, gypsies, Russians, anyone who didn't match up to expectations of an Arian race, into a 'clearing house'.

Things haven't changed under the duvets of naked control.


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@Ex it doesn't matter how much denial your are in, it is happening. It is also totally nothing to do with how many insults you hurl at me.

It is not long ago that you stated there would never be an EU army, not only was there already an EU army but ever since then there have been open talks about increasing the EU controlled military.

If an EU country refuses to ratify an EU directive they get taken to the European Court of Justice and fined. The directives are forced on EU countries by this means, there is no question of the country choosing whether to implement it or not. This process is controlled by the unelected European Commission.

MEP's do not have the same powers as UK MPs, it is the European Commission that is "responsible for proposing legislation, implementing decisions, upholding the EU treaties and managing the day-to-day business of the EU"

Can you tell me when the following EU leaders were elected by the EU public into an EU office/position?

Jean-Claude Juncker (President of the European Commission)
Frans-Timmermans (First Vice-President of the European Commission)
Federica Maria Mogherini (Vice-President of the European Commission)
Jyrki Tapani Katainen (Vice-President of the European Commission)
Valdis Dombrovskis (Vice-President of the European Commission)
Andrus Ansip (Vice-President of the European Commission)
Maroš Šefčovič (Vice-President of the European Commission)

I haven't checked thoroughly but I don't think any of them have been an MEP. Can you imagine a UK Prime Minister being appointed without being an elected MP?






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...through my own interpretation ...


Quite!

I didn't vote for Olly Robbins either. Nor any of the 'advisers' hired by the government at our expense.

Do try to compare like with like DD

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Olly Robbins is a civil servant, he does not and never has set Government policy. An adviser is just that, they have no power.

Five of the seven EU presidents are unelected:-

Jean-Claude Juncker, President of the European Commission.

Donald Tusk, President of the European Council .

Koen Lenaerts, President of the Court of Justice of the European Union.

Mario Draghi, President of the European Central Bank.

Klaus-Heiner Lehne, President of the European Court of Auditors.


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