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Re: Fracking
[Re: cools]
#1060939
26th Oct 2018 6:50pm
26th Oct 2018 6:50pm
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granny
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I feel much the same way, Cools. Others will feel differently and in an unstable world we can't always rely on gas from other regions in the world. That doesn't make the process any more appealing , and as per usual ,only when something drastic happens will the money makers sit up and take note (maybe). Our gas will not get any cheaper from this, that's just plain eyewash and bribery.
The poor old earth is being battered from every available possibility and then we wonder why climate ,seasons etc are going awol. If we upset the balance and ecology of the planet, we will reap the repercussions.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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Re: Fracking
[Re: cools]
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26th Oct 2018 7:02pm
26th Oct 2018 7:02pm
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granny
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They'll always deny it's anything to do with fracking. It could be anything from grand dads teeth falling out to grandma's purse dropping, but never fracking ! Think insurance claims !
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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Re: Fracking
[Re: cools]
#1060952
26th Oct 2018 8:22pm
26th Oct 2018 8:22pm
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diggingdeeper

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They aren't earthquakes, they are just a bit of seismic activity which is bound to happen when fracking (by definition), nothing at all would have been felt at the surface, your kids photos won't have fallen off the mantelpiece.
To put this in perspective, today's activity was 0.8 which is over the 0.5 point initially set for fracking (but was about to be increased anyway because it is ridiculously low). It was 2km below the surface and very localised to the area.
Quarries often hit 2.0 on the scale without the world falling apart.
The Horse Hill (non-fracking) well near Gatwick hit a 1.9 and a 2.4 earlier on in the year at 1km below the surface, this wasn't even properly investigated.
Ffestiniog had a 1.3 the other day.
Newbridge had a 2.4 this month.
Blackpool tower is still standing.
And before the media continue the perpetuation of the multiple dangerous chemicals used, they aren't dangerous. Unlike other less regulated Countries, our fracking only uses one non-hazardous chemical added to the sand and water apart from the low level radioactive tracers they have to use by law.
We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
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Re: Fracking
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27th Oct 2018 2:12pm
27th Oct 2018 2:12pm
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diggingdeeper

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I don't suppose you have a list of the chemicls they use have you dd?
I believe acrylimide is one. No, acrylamide is not used by Cuadrilla, acrylamide is toxic. Acrylamide is banned in the UK (and EU) for most uses. Cuadrilla's fracking fluid is 99.95% water and sand with 0.05% polyacrylamide (PAM) Polyacrylamide is non-toxic, used in lotions, contact lenses etc as it is a water soluble resin. In the UK (and EU) the amount of residual acrylamide in polyacrylamide is regulated, in the States it isn't.
We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
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Re: Fracking
[Re: diggingdeeper]
#1061075
28th Oct 2018 4:42pm
28th Oct 2018 4:42pm
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The media have made the decision to wind the population up. As I said, we’ve been fracking for years, causing minor tremors for years and suddenly it’s a big issue.
We are an importer of gas, even if we export gas it will be good for the economy. Who will benefit ? will we have cheaper gas? I think not, if it takes off, the legislation will be watered down to benefit the industry as always ordinary people will be the loser's, we have crooks and shysters running the country, devoid of any integrity or honesty.
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