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It's being noted that articles have been removed from Corbyn's website since the appalling behaviour of the Government in Venezuela.

In 2015 he was praising it:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150725...les/venezuela/

Now that article no longer exists:

http://jeremycorbyn.org.uk/articles/venezuela/

Is he - or someone in PR - trying to rewrite the Corbyn history?


Anyway, back to the conference,

I remember when party conferences were boring affairs where you'd get the odd quirk like a young William Hague talking, or Michael Heseltine hopping about on stage.

But now we have:

Dawn Butler praising the Trotskyist group Militant taking over Liverpool council and breaking the law
Threats of general strikes if Labour doesn't get their own way of an election
So-called teachers (was he an actor?) saying that we should be teaching children not to be Tories,
Palestinian flag waving,
Splits between speakers over Brexit and second referrendums.

They're certainly not doing much to make themselves look responsible and electable.

Dawn Butler quoted the phrase "Better to break the law than break the poor" which can be interpreted many ways, even in the worst case its only an age old moral dilemma - would you break the law to prevent someone dying? And yes, this Tory Government is causing a lot of people to die unnecessarily.

Threat of general strikes is nothing about "getting their own way", again its about morality, we have a completely immoral Government that need to be brought to task and treat people fairly not as disposable slaves and minions.

Nothing wrong with Palestinian flag waving, Israel needs to be brought to task.

Brexit has divided opinions across all political parties.

Chavez deserved praise for what he attempted (again a moral issues) .... "The Bolivarian revolution led by Chavez is rapidly changing things. The poorest do get food, can see a doctor thanks to Cuban help, and are able to get good education". Chavez was beaten by corruption as is the problem with many nations in the area, Bolivia although doing well is also about to be brought to its knees by corruption though may have the natural resources to ride it which Venezuela didn't.

Most of the current media would blame Jesus for killing fish.

"I remember when party conferences were boring affairs where you'd get the odd quirk like a young William Hague talking, or Michael Heseltine hopping about on stage."


Well that particular party still turns out boring affairs you will be very pleased to know. As for William Hague, the fresh faced young boy went on to be the monster that soaked Libya in blood and left it an ungovernable mess.

I work with 14 to 20 year olds and believe me not a single one of them would vote tory. So the age of the rotten party is drawing to a close kept afloat only by the support of an ageing group who hark for 'better days' when big houses had servants and who hope that brexit will bring back the days of glory and empire when the rich prospered and the poor suffered even worse than they do now.

That aint gonna happen any time now. The sun has set on the empire and the kids of today want a socialist state within Europe. Jeremy Corbyn might be the anti Christ to some but to the youth of today he is a saviour and he will be in Downing Street in 2019.

The kids of today have denounced the values of greed and cheating and oppression of the poor. They want equality, they want fairness, they want honesty in politicians, they want multiculturalism, they want an end to persecution and division.

It is becoming their world and they do not see Jeremy Corbyn as a dangerous radical, they see him as hope, light and the future.

The kids of today want everything, including their parents paying off their debts. Let's hope they will be able to do the same for their own children in years to come. Probably they won't , and neither will they have houses or inheritance to leave their kids. How very boring to leave behind a funeral bill instead.

Has anyone noticed that Corbyn is becoming more and more like a Cult leader, like one of the Religious groups that are fanatical in America. Just seeing pictures of him on the platform with his arms raised to an adoring hoard looked just like that. Is this the future ? Doesn't bear thinking about.

Ever heard of with age comes wisdom Susie? We live on planet Earth not Utopia so good luck with that one.

50 next year I think I am wise enough Cools and spending most of my youth in the care system has long ago killed any dreams of Utopia.

10/10 for geography though, we do live on planet earth, you did get that right at least! LOL!

I fail to see how fairness in government and equality are 'Utopia' to you.

Rather an odd logic I think.

However it is not what you think or I think that matters because the youth of today will be calling the tune at the next election. The tory dinosaur will give it's last odious gasp of rotten breath next year.

I for one will dance on it's grave.

I wasn't quite referring to yourself Susie , you mentioned 14 to 20 year olds thinking that Jeremy Corbyn is their saviour. He's promising so much that in my opionion can never be fulfilled by any party. I just wish I had faith in any of them at the moment but they're all failing . All fighting amongst themselves but feel sorry for May , who'd have her job with trying to get brexit done.
We will have to wait and see what happens in the future but I know JC wouldn't get my vote!

I have a daughter Susie who teaches children 14-18 yrs old. My daughter is Corbyn mad... thinks the sun shines out of his backside.
She earns good money by many standards, but like many teachers, she still seems to think she should be entitled to certain other things in life. At what point does this attitude stop and individuals realise that life is not a joy ride, never has been and never will be for the majority ? Only when we are grateful, do we appreciate how lucky we are in this country as opposed to many socialist countries world wide.
Socialism does not work in the world of globalisation, not unless we want to descend into poverty for the masses, and Corbyn's party is Socialist with a big fat S.

Solidarity amongst Labour Party Members, is simply a bit more 'gang culture' . They were in Liverpool , sing the rousing songs, patting each other on the backs... load of B shit IMO.

I hate that word Solidarity it's got a real communist ring about it.

Yes, I agree. He also is looking towards to an anti-capitalist society as he's already said so, which puts him in line with communism, not just socialism.
and.. for his MP's who support him, in an effort to hang on to positions i.e those who were also MP's in Blair Brown , Government then they should be ashamed of themselves. How can they be supporters of both when the politics are totally different ?
Not sure where you find your information about Venezuela DD, they have nothing, no food , no medicines, no health care, no money (it's not worth anything.) It's really bad there.

Socialism at it's best, after a few years.

1 Venezuelan Bolivar = 0.012 of a £ ...... then have a look at this link for their cost of living 2018.

https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/country/venezuela

Granny we already have poverty for the masses. You are right though, Socialism does not work in the world of globalisation and that is why we need to rid ourselves of tyranny through globalisation. It is 100 years since the end of WW1 and the heroes returned not to the 'cottage, acre and a cow' promised by Lloyd George but to police baton charges, lock outs and poverty. It is 73 years since the heroes of another war returned not to a bright new world but to austerity until 1960 when they were told 'You have never had it so good!' (because you can afford a twin tub washing machine and a tv on HP).

What does the working person achieve today? If they are very, very lucky a modest little house paid off after a back breaking 30 years. The lucky ones may have a works pension to boost the starvation level Old Age pension. That is the peak of achievement for the masses but sadly the majority will not even achieve this. For them benefits and social housing are the future.

We are kidded there is no money just as we were kidded in the Depression there was no money and yet, as we suffer in silence while the rich party and there are more rich today than ever. It is a vile and unfair disparity and it needs to end.

Susie, in this country the word 'poverty' is used very liberally. There are those who are poor but get the benefits to assist.. Agreed there is not enough social housing, and that is on the cards to be remedied. Sooner rather than later, hopefully. Let's not forget which Government brought in the minimum wage that took away competition amongst companies to employ the best. They all took to minimum wage, re jiggled the job description and after a Labour Government's initiative of bringing in (at enormous cost) all over the country, the Job Evaluation Scheme which saw many jobs reduced in numbers,( mine for one) many jobs placed in a lower banding and many upgraded. Those upgraded which where the ones at the top of the pile anyway, got handsome amounts of back pay . At the same time Peter Mandelson publicly stated on TV that he had no objection to people being 'filth rich' . That is exactly what happened between 1997 and 2010 at a revolutionary rate , causing greater divides between the rich and the poor. and continues today, but it was the precious Labour Government that caused it.

Now I have to go out.. so I'll leave you all to it.. and don't talk about me behind my back, because I'll find out.

Well you may be right but one thing is certain we don't see adoring crowds at the Tory conference, we are a divided nation not just at borders, but North and South, we are not moving forward we are stepping back, the needless austerity has produced nothing of value only made the poor poorer, we are being led into a low wage economy with no workers rights or protection, the blueprint for a Tory Britain, with those least able paying for it, Remember on yer bike Tebbit, one of the first to jump on the privatisation band wagon, they are like vampires sucking the good and worth out of anything for profit.

Anything left of Attila the Hun is hard left and communist, full marks to the Tories for their expertise in propaganda.

Full marks to New Labour for their expertise in spin.

Wouldn't it be nice if all the parties went back to politics, truth and morality.

Nobody should have to beg for food, nobody should be without a decent roof over their heads and nobody should live in fear of crime.