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Re: Premptive Chemical Attack Responce AGAIN! [Re: diggingdeeper] #1054556
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Britain being a terrorist organisation again, we had no authority to bomb Syria.


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Thomas Binder (Cardiologist) of the Medical University of Vienna stated of the following picture ....

"As a cardiologist I can say that these ECG electrodes are completely wrong positioned. They would not get any signal. This picture is faked!"

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Re: Premptive Chemical Attack Responce AGAIN! [Re: Excoriator] #1054639
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Originally Posted by Excoriator
Not being a believer in coincidences, The proximity of the Skripal affair and what's happened in Syria sets alarm bells ringing in my mind anyway.

The footage I saw on TV of terrified children being hosed down was about as convincing as a nine-bob note!



I watched one of the children in the video being interviewed last night .I think any parent would have recognised in her face ,the way she responded to the interviewers questions and then periodically looked to someone at the side with that pleased with herself but quizzical expression that asked ' was that ok, did I say the right thing?' that she had been 'schooled' in her replies .

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Originally Posted by venice
Originally Posted by Excoriator
Not being a believer in coincidences, The proximity of the Skripal affair and what's happened in Syria sets alarm bells ringing in my mind anyway.

The footage I saw on TV of terrified children being hosed down was about as convincing as a nine-bob note!



I watched one of the children in the video being interviewed last night .I think any parent would have recognised in her face ,the way she responded to the interviewers questions and then periodically looked to someone at the side with that pleased with herself but quizzical expression that asked ' was that ok, did I say the right thing?' that she had been 'schooled' in her replies .


I agree Venice. One other point to be made,( apart from the BBC using children to make their unsubstantiated news in all of this ) the mother was wearing the full burqa and hijab. In the towns that have been liberated, the women have thrown those clothes off as it was ISIS and other groups who forced them to wear them. I suspect that woman and child are either their own ( Al Qaeda, FSA or ,rebels,) wives and children or civilians who are held prisoner.

There is so much evidence that we can find, of these atrocities perpetrated by the rebels, ISIS and others and
the world is blanking it. The Syrian people , those who are able , and have the line of communication ,(because most if not all in those enclaves have no way to communicate only the terrorists have that facility I imagine.), are desperate to get the truth out, and no one is listening to them. Why not ?
Seven very long years for them and the world turned a blind eye. Why ?

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Re: Premptive Chemical Attack Responce AGAIN! [Re: diggingdeeper] #1054652
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Well I have listened intently to Mrs May's day in Parliament this afternoon. Two things stand out apart from the fact that there is still no actual proof being given for the chemical attacks by Assad . Information from the NGO's which will be the White Helmets.

Firstly, she continued to repeat the fact that the Russians are basically not to be believed and are conspiring to hide the truth, but then when she was later questioned about any fatalities or injuries that might result from the 'fall out' of the air strikes on the chemical weapon factories on the local populations, she replied that to date, she had not received any notification of any , but would wait for the Russians to inform her ! Why would she believe them in that instance ?

Secondly, she also repeated that UK had tried to get humanitarian aid inside Syria and had consistently been blocked by Russia and the Assad 'Regime'.

I think that's another lie, because I know that no one was able to get humanitarian aid through to places like Damascus and Aleppo and surrounding areas because of the road blocks put in place by the terrorists, i.e . Al Qaeda. Al Nusra, FSA, all over the place. The ordinary citizens of those areas could not get to Damascus or Aleppo to receive aid from the centres there, run by the Red Crescent. None of the charities could get aid to the people.

I spoke to Red Cross, Red Crescent, Unicef, Syria Counts, Save the children, and they all said the same thing. If the people can get to us, meaning the camps in Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon, they can receive aid, but we have no way of distributing to the outer districts and towns because it is too dangerous. Needless to say, the people could not get there, and still can't.
Animals died because vets could not get medicines through , I am sure the same has applied to the human population. The medicines controlled by the terrorists in many cases.


So I don't believe Mrs May's take on the humanitarian issue of being refused access. If they were refused I guess it would have been because it was too dangerous. Unicef supplies were stockpiled in the terrorists underground hospitals and tunnels.


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Re: Premptive Chemical Attack Responce AGAIN! [Re: diggingdeeper] #1054656
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Funny how May can get missiles in whenever she want's but she can't get aid in?

Funny how May can find money for missiles whenever she wants but can't find money for people in desperate situations in this country.

I've no idea if the Russian's are telling the truth or not but I know May has attempted to let us believe a load of porkies.

This Government is untenable, they are unnecessarily leading us down a road that the majority don't want. I've never seen opinion on the internet be so united in the distrust of our Government.


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This Government would now appear to be a complete cock-up.. Gave them every chance, but what IS the alternative ? IMO there isn't one.
Saying that, HAVE they made a complete cock -up of this situation ? Reports tonight are coming in of Israel war planes entering Syria from Lebanon ?

Was this part of the plan, i.e. opening the door for Israel ? It wouldn't surprise me.

https://www.facebook.com/Syrianewsdaily/

https://www.facebook.com/SYRIAN.SYriaRealInfosAndNews/

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Re: Premptive Chemical Attack Responce AGAIN! [Re: diggingdeeper] #1054662
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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Funny how May can get missiles in whenever she want's but she can't get aid in?

Funny how May can find money for missiles whenever she wants but can't find money for people in desperate situations in this country.

I've no idea if the Russian's are telling the truth or not but I know May has attempted to let us believe a load of porkies.

This Government is untenable, they are unnecessarily leading us down a road that the majority don't want. I've never seen opinion on the internet be so united in the distrust of our Government.


A desperate government will do desperate things, they have bungled everything and consistently tell lies to cover up, another election on the strength of her decisive action in dealing with the "threat"?

I still believe the Russians were involved, but the incident was seized upon and bolstered up by the government, they are also covering their backs by announcing there could be cyber attacks in case more underhand dealings are exposed.

Re: Premptive Chemical Attack Responce AGAIN! [Re: Excoriator] #1054664
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Originally Posted by Excoriator
Not being a believer in coincidences, The proximity of the Skripal affair and what's happened in Syria sets alarm bells ringing in my mind anyway.


You need to look at the wider picture - the meddling in US Elections and the continued air, sea and land incursions into European territory.


RAF fighters intercept two Russian bombers near UK airspace
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ept-two-russian-bombers-near-uk-airspace

Warning Issued Over Russian Military Drills in Baltic Sea
https://www.forces.net/news/warning-issued-over-russian-military-drills

Russia Launches Military Exercises In Crimea, Abkhazia
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-military-execises-crimea-abkhazia/29109826.html

Re: Premptive Chemical Attack Responce AGAIN! [Re: diggingdeeper] #1054667
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Can any good come out of this?

Hopefully, we can learn that any military action should be a decision made by Parliament , not by the PM. This doesn't preclude the granting of temporary powers to protect the country during times of high tension under specified conditions, so the claims that making this law would endanger the UK are spurious. It had occurred to me also that the fact that this action came up during one of Parliament's frequent holidays might perhaps not be pure coincidence either.

It is amazing how keen politicians are to institute all kinds of laws to make you and me behave, but are exceeding keen to oppose anything that makes THEM behave!

Re: Premptive Chemical Attack Responce AGAIN! [Re: Gibbo] #1054669
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Originally Posted by Gibbo
Originally Posted by Excoriator
Not being a believer in coincidences, The proximity of the Skripal affair and what's happened in Syria sets alarm bells ringing in my mind anyway.


You need to look at the wider picture - the meddling in US Elections and the continued air, sea and land incursions into European territory.


RAF fighters intercept two Russian bombers near UK airspace
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ept-two-russian-bombers-near-uk-airspace

Warning Issued Over Russian Military Drills in Baltic Sea
https://www.forces.net/news/warning-issued-over-russian-military-drills

Russia Launches Military Exercises In Crimea, Abkhazia
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-military-execises-crimea-abkhazia/29109826.html


Those reports are surely not a valid reason to bomb Syria, or do we conduct our own wars on others lands now ? If that's the case, it's not a very humanitarian exercise and we need to be very careful .

The whole operation has been filled with deceit, which to my mind, is worse than lies.


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Re: Premptive Chemical Attack Responce AGAIN! [Re: Gibbo] #1054675
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Originally Posted by Gibbo
You need to look at the wider picture - the meddling in US Elections and the continued air, sea and land incursions into European territory.


RAF fighters intercept two Russian bombers near UK airspace
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ept-two-russian-bombers-near-uk-airspace

Warning Issued Over Russian Military Drills in Baltic Sea
https://www.forces.net/news/warning-issued-over-russian-military-drills

Russia Launches Military Exercises In Crimea, Abkhazia
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-military-execises-crimea-abkhazia/29109826.html


But all those things are routine and have been going on for years, by them and us,


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Re: Premptive Chemical Attack Responce AGAIN! [Re: diggingdeeper] #1054722
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Looks like a cover up???

Re: Premptive Chemical Attack Responce AGAIN! [Re: diggingdeeper] #1054746
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Three Belgian companies are to be prosecuted for exporting chemicals that could be used in the production of the deadly nerve agent Sarin to Syria.

The companies exported 96 tonnes of isopropanol to Syria between 2014 and 2016, the court summons says.

The firms say they were unaware that 2013 sanctions made export licences compulsory and allege that customs officials knew about the exports.

Isopropanol can be used in legitimate products such as paint remover.

But it is also a precursor in the production of Sarin, which the UN and Western nations accuse Syrian President Bashar al-Assad of using against his own population.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43811614

It can also get into the wrong hands in that country !


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Surprise, surprise, the inspectors have come under fire and the inspection has been cancelled because of fears for their safety, now I wonder who is responsible?

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