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Re: Russia [Re: cools] #1053955
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From the start this Saga has had a poor script and even poorer actors. We used to call it propaganda now it is called news. Get ready for the egg fight I have a feeling there is going to be plenty about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novichok_agent Soros and his muppets must be laughing their socks off.

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The next part of the plot will be the death of one or both of them. Any news if they have been questioned? or which hospital they are in?
If our Govt can name the agent in 48 hours how come the chemical weapon scientists havent come up with anything yet.

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This is quite entertaining far to much information for my mind.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/16/russian-spy-poisoning-attack-novichok-chemist

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Who mentioned SOROS ? If you want what is going on this is extremely interesting. Long , but well worth it. Alternatively , go to
30 mins, for the start of the real surprises, or to 40 mins if you're in a hurry to catch up with George Soros.

Vanessa Beeley giving a talk on how it all works, links in, NGO's that aren't NGO's at all and much more. She is given an introduction to her background first of all. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYKrKQFO32c

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Who mentioned Soros ? I did because, Vil Mirzayanov the Soviet chemist worked under the Soviets for thirty years on novichok. He was arrested in 1994 and charged with divulging state secrets. Intervention by the US government The Soros Foundation and activists including his wife an American secured his asylum in the United States.

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Originally Posted by granny

Who mentioned SOROS ? If you want what is going on this is extremely interesting. Long , but well worth it. Alternatively , go to
30 mins, for the start of the real surprises, or to 40 mins if you're in a hurry to catch up with George Soros.

Vanessa Beeley giving a talk on how it all works, links in, NGO's that aren't NGO's at all and much more. She is given an introduction to her background first of all. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYKrKQFO32c


Vanessa Beeley, describes herself as an independent journalist, however she has been described as an anti imperialist a friend of Assad and a communist puppet, adept at twisting the truth, must admit she comes across as sincere,but Having said that the more confusion there is, the easier it is to manipulate people.

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Vanessa Beeley could very well be all of those things you mention, but the facts she makes about how all the NGO's are connected and backed by foreign Governments, and the CIA, with Soros pivotal , gives a clear indication of how the NGO's are truly not what they are given to be. Soros has poured £ billions into his Open Society Foundation (backed by the CIA) . A little over 12 month s ago it was reported that Trump ordered Pompeo to sever CIA ties with Soros.
Admittedly, there's a lot of tripe on the internet, which comes from both sides. Who to believe is always questionable. It is interesting to try to understand what all these 'Foundations' are for. Something that has crept in with money being poured into them from individuals, where it would seem money is being given away ,.. there has to be a method in their madness. I would suggest Beeley's take on that is correct, i.e. for NGO's to cause civil unrest and the regime changes that have for so long been planned.
Soros , the crook that Dusty describes, gets into everything and is like King of the World.
Another article that we can read, digest and maybe discard as propaganda , but is it ?
https://www.mintpressnews.com/212798-2/212798/

Getting back to the original topic, seems now Mrs May has succeeded in getting the support and backing of so many countries expelling Russian Diplomats, everything has gone quiet again on the Skripal incident. Job done ! (that's the way I see it anyway).

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Getting back to the original topic, seems now Mrs May has succeeded in getting the support and backing of so many countries expelling Russian Diplomats, everything has gone quiet again on the Skripal incident. Job done ! (that's the way I see it anyway).
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We didn't have to twist their arms up their backs for support, most have been on the receiving end of Russian interference and have had enough.

Theresa May strutting the world stage with her best Winston Churchill Face on, some of the media saying we are taking our place as world leaders, it must be manna from heaven for the Tories with Brexit dropped from the headlines, every cloud has a silver lining for some, Boris may even get a Nobel peace prize for his delicate handling of the situation.

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If it wasn't so serious and scary you would laugh wouldn't you but it frightens me...worry beads at the ready. I would not be going anywhere near Russia World Cup or not! Thousands of tickets been sold it sounds surreal everybody so against them but they hosting football World Cup!!

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Originally Posted by cools
If it wasn't so serious and scary you would laugh wouldn't you but it frightens me...worry beads at the ready. I would not be going anywhere near Russia World Cup or not! Thousands of tickets been sold it sounds surreal everybody so against them but they hosting football World Cup!!


It's not the Russian people cools most of them are like us they just want to live their lives, it would be a disaster for Russia if anything was allowed to happen at the World cup on top of everything else.

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Originally Posted by dustymclean
This is quite entertaining far to much information for my mind.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/16/russian-spy-poisoning-attack-novichok-chemist



Key info in it quote "“It could touch any skin and in a couple minutes would take effect.”

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Originally Posted by fish5133
Originally Posted by dustymclean
This is quite entertaining far to much information for my mind.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/16/russian-spy-poisoning-attack-novichok-chemist



Key info in it quote "“It could touch any skin and in a couple minutes would take effect.”



A media sensationalist version of "The main route of exposure is thought to be by inhalation, although absorption may also occur via skin or mucous membrane exposure."


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Tonight they say that the highest traces of the nerve agent are on Skripal's front door. Just maybe he'd had enough of life, he had the agent and his plan was to commit suicide and take his daughter with him. Anything is possible .... they did after all pay a visit to the cemetery first thing !

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This gets stranger by the minute, that is very possible Granny..If it had been put on front door by whoever they're not very professional! Poor postman , anybody calling at the door could have been infected. It just sounds very, well sloppy really!! The daughter had only just come from Russia the day before had she not? Had she brought it over to do what with who knows? Don't think we'll ever get the truth about this

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