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cools #1053873 24th Mar 2018 2:21am
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I'm even more suspicious now. When have we ever seen this level of "support" from other EU countries without at least 3 months of manipulation, bribery, blackmail etc?


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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
I'm even more suspicious now. When have we ever seen this level of "support" from other EU countries without at least 3 months of manipulation, bribery, blackmail etc?


Perhaps they are getting worried DD, if the Russians can covertly deliver a nerve agent to our Island nation then think how easy it would be to do the same to the European States.

From what I can gather Novichoc is a binary agent and can be mixed with another compound that is obtainable ( it also makes it easy to transport), it is a persistent agent which basically means that the area remains infected.

My theory has now changed somewhat, that the area was in fact picked because of its proximity to Porton Down, and the attack was meant to cause maximum media exposure, the Russians throwing in Porton Down as a joke, which was in fact meant to cause concern and confusion among the local populace and create doubt about their own involvement, it appears to have had some success as Porton Down has been mentioned on these pages as the source of contamination and I bet many more are wondering.

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The ultimate conspiracy theory.....

The nerve agent had been stolen from Porton Down and the Skripals were the intermediaries moving it on, perhaps to Russia.


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Also been said that Pablo lives in Salisbury.


https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Pablo_Miller

and Mr Steele living in Yemen atm .

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Christopher_Steele

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Nice one! Granny
An open mind will take you to places a closed mind wont, better to put out the known facts than unfounded accusations. Hope you are well H.

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One thing that has come to light,out of all this is that very few people have trust or indeed any faith in this government,and see them as underhanded and untrustworthy, well best to call a spade a shovel , liars !

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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
The ultimate conspiracy theory.....

The nerve agent had been stolen from Porton Down and the Skripals were the intermediaries moving it on, perhaps to Russia.


Or the reverse.. Skripals daughter brought it back from Russia in her suitcase to give to Porton Down.

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Originally Posted by fish5133
Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
The ultimate conspiracy theory.....

The nerve agent had been stolen from Porton Down and the Skripals were the intermediaries moving it on, perhaps to Russia.


Or the reverse.. Skripals daughter brought it back from Russia in her suitcase to give to Porton Down.


In both cases, with Novichoc being a binary agent surely it would be stored and transported in its inert form, unmixed,

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Originally Posted by casper
In both cases, with Novichoc being a binary agent surely it would be stored and transported in its inert form, unmixed,


That is the curious thing, if they were targetting Sergei by using his daughter, how did they set up a scenario where he was bound to be present when the pre-mixed container was opened or the separate agents were mixed? How did they ensure customs didn't get hit instead etc etc.

Its hard to believe that the UK wasn't involved as the PM declared the sanctions before they appear to even know what has physically happened and where contamination may exist.

What possible convincing information could the PM have told all the other countries that she couldn't also have released to the UK public?


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It's all a bit unclear DD, it is suggested that they were infected through the ventilation system of the car, but who knows? hence all the conspiracey theories, another curious thing is if Novichok is so deadly how did father and daughter manage to contaminate so many different places, surely in an enclosed space if it was in the car then they must have had a deadly dosage,and immediate symptoms???

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How did they manage to contaminate so many places without contaminating the doctor who resuscitated the daughter?

The BMW was stuck in snow the day before the incident, that would really interfere with the window of opportunity to tamper with it.

Nerve agents can be slow acting, there are no set rules. Its doesn't have to be destructive in itself, it can be a very indirect way of causing parts of the body to shut down.


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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper


Nerve agents can be slow acting, there are no set rules. Its doesn't have to be destructive in itself, it can be a very indirect way of causing parts of the body to shut down.


Odd they were both affected at the same time on a park bench !

Something just doesn't add up . Copper contaminated ( also reported that was when he went to the house.) and it was a female doctor who first attended them so I heard on the news, initially.
Someone could be making it up as they go along, I suppose.
Even more strange that there are no living relatives to vouch for the facts , such as them still being in hospital or still critical etc. unlike the last, Litvinenko.
I hate to get too involved in fantasy... BUT maybe it wasn't even his daughter whom met him. CCTV showed the suspected couple walking and she had blonde hair, the female doctor said she had brown hair.

Hi Dusty, yes, I'm fine and thanks . Hope you are ok too. Sorry, but I have just turned your previously nice comments , upside down. laugh

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It certainly not fantasy granny, who knows what exactly went on, my guess is it reeks of Russian involvement, no doubt misinformation has been leaked to the media to muddy the waters and maybe the reports have been watered down, we now must wait to see what the final outcome will be from the tests being carried out, if they do prove that this was the work of Russia then. they will have fall guys in place to take the blame.

Apparently Novichock was designed overcome all current NATO measures against chemical attack, including personal NBC equipment and measures against contamination.

Very observant of you to notice the hair colour granny, some pictures do show her with blonde hair

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Originally Posted by casper
It certainly not fantasy granny, who knows what exactly went on, my guess is it reeks of Russian involvement, no doubt misinformation has been leaked to the media to muddy the waters and maybe the reports have been watered down, we now must wait to see what the final outcome will be from the tests being carried out, if they do prove that this was the work of Russia then. they will have fall guys in place to take the blame.

Apparently Novichock was designed overcome all current NATO measures against chemical attack, including personal NBC equipment and measures against contamination.

Very observant of you to notice the hair colour granny, some pictures do show her with blonde hair


Read in the news today Skripal has been seeing a Russian girlfriend, mmm the plot thickens.

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