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I notice (despite the blanket media coverage of spy-killings) that Unilever has decided to move its HQ from London to Rotterdam. Of course, they have explained that this is nothing to do with brexit and is just a 'business decision'. But they would say that, wouldn't they!

I imagine there will be a salami-slice movement of business from the UK to the Netherlands, particularly the Wirral where they are still big employers, with the land being sold off profitably for housing until it becomes a Dutch company rather than an Anglo-Dutch one. What is the betting that Vauxhalls will follow?

I trust the brexit voters here are prepared to take responsibility for their foolishness. They won't of course. They will blame the EU!

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Bound to happen, we are seeing the same over all the things we take for granted at the moment. Driving licences, passports,potential freedom of movement. etc etc.

The "leave" campaign clearly misrepresented any potential benefits.

As a simple example -how many people from UK live and work in Spain - hundreds of thousands. So that's OK but they cant come here. What a narrow-minded view.

It would be really interesting to see how many of those who own properties in Spain voted to leave EU!

I fully agree about not letting Brussels have too much control over certain things - but to just vote to leave EU was never the best way to resolve that.

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I used to find the claims that 'our' fish were being taken by 'Spanish fishing boats'. highly amusing.

The facts were that registering a fishing vessel in Spain was considerably cheaper than doing so in the UK. British fishermen, not being idiots, had promptly reregistered their ships there and were carrying on business as usual as 'Spanish fishing boats'.

The Daily Mail had a fine time outraging its slack-jawed readership with this nonsensical 'theft' of 'our' fish by these dastardly Spanish ships!

Sadly, this is the sort of nonsense on which the idiotic 'leave' campaign was based. God help us all!

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There are also a lot of Spanish and Dutch owned British flagged fishing boats out there. Its all a matter of quota hopping, even land locked countries can effectively obtain/steal quotas by registering their boat elsewhere.

I think the UK registration fee is £131 at the moment, hardly seems worth faffing around to register somewhere else to save a few pounds?

The whole quota system is totally broken, it doesn't take into account where the catches are landed. A Spanish owned trawler with a Spanish crew landing the catches in Spain can be counted against our British quotas because the boat is registered in Britain. Does that make any sense?


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It only makes no sense if you are obsessed with national borders. Nobody gets upset about a business registered in Surrey operates in Lancashire and banks its profits in Birmingham because we see county borders as quite irrelevant.

We CHOOSE to treat national borders differently, but there is no compulsion to do so or indeed any real advantage in it. If the UK decided to adopt an isolationist policy then it is going to suffer for doing so, not because anyone is punishing them, but because they have chosen to contract out of a successful and growing community. No sensible European-wide business is going to locate its headquarters in a country that has deliberately erected barriers with the EU, and I expect to see a lot more companies following Unilever.

The only way of attracting businesses is by becoming a tax haven, which means offering zero taxes to companies based here. That means you and I will have to pay more tax to make up the difference.


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