WikiWirral its great, register, enjoy and welcome.
Forum Statistics
Posts1,013,053
Topics74,790
Members12,860
Forums66
Posts in last 24hrs35
Most Online7,831
Apr 8th, 2013
Who's Online Now
54 registered members (alan128, 9 invisible), 1,004 guests, and354 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


Popular Topics(Views 7days)
New General Forums
Gemma who?
by casper. 22nd Jan 2019 9:28am
Nurses Pay
by diggingdeeper. 22nd Jan 2019 2:11am
Vale Cafe
by venice. 21st Jan 2019 11:33am
Loneliness
by snowshoes. 17th Jan 2019 10:58pm
New Wirral History
West Kirby/ Calday - Water feature/stream!?!
by Stewie. 15th Jan 2019 12:46pm
Pathe news short - merseytunnel 1934
by oldpm01. 5th Jun 2017 1:57pm
Bidston Hall
by RUDEBOX. 12th Jan 2014 8:46pm
BIRDS HOUSE
by hoseman. 23rd Oct 2010 3:48pm
Shops gone by
by WADDI. 25th Mar 2008 12:43am
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
WW1 Monument, Birkenhead
No more bridge, never be the same
Topic Replies
What song are you listening to?
by granny. 22nd Jan 2019 12:23pm
I phone 6s and a cannondale mountain bike
by j_demo. 21st Jan 2019 5:09pm
Cataracts
by granny. 21st Jan 2019 4:34pm
Free documentation for Europeans
by thesilentenigma. 21st Jan 2019 4:01pm
New Novichok Saga
by thesilentenigma. 21st Jan 2019 3:56pm
Prince Philip Car Crash
by cools. 21st Jan 2019 12:49pm
Only in UK
by granny. 20th Jan 2019 10:29pm
West Midlands Police
by granny. 20th Jan 2019 2:21pm
Project Fear III
by granny. 20th Jan 2019 2:19pm
January
M T W T F S S
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Queens Park - Crewe
by venice. 13th Jan 2019 6:21pm
Wirral Wargaming Club - FREE ENTRY - Tonight 9 Jan
by WargamerNik. 9th Jan 2019 11:15am
Previous Topic
Next Topic
Print Topic
Rating 5
Real news or fake #1052108
30th Jan 2018 8:59pm
30th Jan 2018 8:59pm
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,354
Wallasey Village
Snodvan Offline OP

Forum Addict
Snodvan  Offline OP

Forum Addict
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,354
Wallasey Village
Someone sent me this link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...video-shows-man-punching-driver-car.html

Loads ok from Mail website ---- but I am surprised there has not been more comment on here

Snod


5 Precepts of Buddhism seem appropriate. Refrain from taking life. Refrain from taking that which is not given. Refrain from misconduct. Refrain from lying. Refrain from intoxicants which lead to loss of mindfulness
Google Ads
Re: Real news or fake [Re: Snodvan] #1052116
30th Jan 2018 10:59pm
30th Jan 2018 10:59pm
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,885
Heswallish
F
fish5133 Offline
Forum Guardian
fish5133  Offline
Forum Guardian
F
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,885
Heswallish
quote "but I am surprised there has not been more comment on here". Footy was on..

much the same sentiments as the mail comments. Presume police not done anything because the car driver didnt want to take it further...if indeed they even contacted them.

Re: Real news or fake [Re: Snodvan] #1052120
31st Jan 2018 1:06am
31st Jan 2018 1:06am
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,272
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,272
Birkenhead
I can't see the driver reporting it, even though the pedestrian lights were on green, that does not give a car automatic right of way over a pedestrian.

Of course the pedestrian was being an idiot but there was plenty of time for the car to avoid coming so close to the pedestrian.

Unless the car driver didn't have time to react (eg pedestrian jumped out in front) he will be found guilty if he hits a pedestrian and probably if he near-misses. This pedestrian had already walked slowly across over half the road and in a very visible position, the car driver should have given him space.

The driver's car window being down in December is also suspicious, maybe he lowered it to shout abuse or maybe to reduce the fumes in the car.


In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn
Re: Real news or fake [Re: Snodvan] #1052122
31st Jan 2018 9:59am
31st Jan 2018 9:59am
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,617
wirral
E
Excoriator Offline
Forum Addict
Excoriator  Offline
Forum Addict
E
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,617
wirral
"We pay cash for videos!"

Almost certainly faked for the money and not worth commenting on.

Re: Real news or fake [Re: Snodvan] #1052152
1st Feb 2018 12:23pm
1st Feb 2018 12:23pm
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 17
Heswall
J
Jeremy Offline
Newbeee
Jeremy  Offline
Newbeee
J
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 17
Heswall
Not sure that's fake. Just standard Liscard clientele.

Would have to be pretty stupid to set that up considering the nature of the driving.

I'd almost certainly have tried my best to run him over by accident.

Re: Real news or fake [Re: Jeremy] #1052158
1st Feb 2018 1:41pm
1st Feb 2018 1:41pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,272
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,272
Birkenhead
Originally Posted by Jeremy
I'd almost certainly have tried my best to run him over by accident.


Why? Just because you are in a metal can does not give you any right to malice or any extra rights over the road. The pedestrian was crossing the road perfectly legally, the car thought he would scare him out the way.

In case law after case law it has been shown that a pedestrian has right of way over motorised vehicles. Pedestrian are allowed to walk on the road, there is no law saying they have to walk on the pavement, the only time they are not permitted to walk on a road is when told not to by a policeman.


In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn
Re: Real news or fake [Re: Snodvan] #1052252
3rd Feb 2018 12:17pm
3rd Feb 2018 12:17pm
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 17
Heswall
J
Jeremy Offline
Newbeee
Jeremy  Offline
Newbeee
J
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 17
Heswall
What you're saying is that it's not illegal to be a bellend. Quite.

The lad was deliberately being a bellend and I fail to see from that video where the car was trying to 'scare him'.

I'd almost certainly have accidentally knocked said bellend down in my efforts to escape from him as he was punching me through the window.

In this instance the victim was stuck inside their car with no way to defend themselves so they tried to remove themselves from the situation.

I have right of way so I'll stroll across the busy road.

Found a hoody for you...

[Linked Image]

Last edited by Jeremy; 3rd Feb 2018 12:19pm.
Re: Real news or fake [Re: Snodvan] #1052255
3rd Feb 2018 1:10pm
3rd Feb 2018 1:10pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,272
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,272
Birkenhead
Perhaps you are getting mixed up with America where pedestrians don't have the absolute right to walk on the roads.

The pedestrian was crossing the road and started across with plenty of time for the car to react, there was a queue immediately ahead so the car wasn't going to get anywhere anyway but the driver was too intent on scaring a pedestrian to notice that probably. The car purposely got as close to the pedestrian as possible, in fact it might have made contact.

The pedestrian had walked 25 feet in a straight line, the car was about 100 feet away from the pedestrian when he stepped onto the road

I'd be annoyed if a car got that close to me, wouldn't you?

What I am saying is that both are at fault for their different actions however the car took an unreasonable, inconsiderate and dangerous action which initiated the problem.

You can see the original video HERE which you can pause without adverts blocking out the view.

There is nothing wrong with knowing your rights is there or are you a believer in a lawless society?


In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn
Re: Real news or fake [Re: Snodvan] #1052285
4th Feb 2018 4:17am
4th Feb 2018 4:17am
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 17
Heswall
J
Jeremy Offline
Newbeee
Jeremy  Offline
Newbeee
J
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 17
Heswall
Any sensible person would not cross the road when a car was coming... it's common sense. Just because it's legal, why would you?

Re: Real news or fake [Re: Snodvan] #1052293
4th Feb 2018 6:25pm
4th Feb 2018 6:25pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,272
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,272
Birkenhead
Because you want to get to the other side.

There is absolutely no need threaten to assassinate a pedestrian because you think they are invading "YOUR" road.

The driver would probably have not taken that action if it had been another car.

A car and driver is licenced to be allowed on the road and as such are a secondary users and have numerous regulations how they are allowed to drive on that road, including being considerate to other users.

A pedestrian has absolute right to be on the road and is a primary user with minimal regulations eg they don't have to follow the line of the road or be on a specific side of the road.

The direction pedestrians are travelling in is their choice and motor vehicles have to respect that just as they wouldn't rear-end a car in front.

The real question is why did the driver choose to threaten the pedestrian with his vehicle?

Last edited by diggingdeeper; 4th Feb 2018 6:33pm.

In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn

Moderated by  Mod 

Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Free documentation for Europeans
by thesilentenigma. 21st Jan 2019 4:01pm
Cataracts
by thesilentenigma. 21st Jan 2019 3:52pm
Only in UK
by Snodvan. 19th Jan 2019 1:57pm
Prince Philip Car Crash
by fish5133. 17th Jan 2019 7:14pm
Email hacked
by rossie. 16th Jan 2019 6:44pm
For Sale & Free
Men's hugo boss jacket
by paul110180. 19th Jan 2019 6:43pm
I phone 6s and a cannondale mountain bike
by Thorwalker. 17th Jan 2019 9:31pm
For sale, Large binoculars and case
by spider. 14th Jan 2019 3:18pm
For sale....Fly rod,reels,flies,line
s,spares.

by spider. 14th Jan 2019 2:37pm
Wanted...Kids paddle pool
by spider. 12th Jan 2019 7:24pm
Member Spotlight
BandyCoot
BandyCoot
Birkenhead
Posts: 5,426
Joined: December 2008
Show All Member Profiles 
Newest Members
Annakathryn, ashketchum, ShiroKuro, robertmljones, matt8888
12860 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
Cataracts
by thesilentenigma. 21st Jan 2019 3:52pm
Email hacked
by rossie. 16th Jan 2019 6:44pm
Queens Park - Crewe
by diggingdeeper. 12th Jan 2019 11:30am
Restaurant Venues
by fish5133. 9th Jan 2019 6:49pm
Wirral Wargaming Club - FREE ENTRY - Tonight 9 Jan
by WargamerNik. 9th Jan 2019 9:36am
News : New Topics
Free documentation for Europeans
by thesilentenigma. 21st Jan 2019 4:01pm
Only in UK
by Snodvan. 19th Jan 2019 1:57pm
Prince Philip Car Crash
by fish5133. 17th Jan 2019 7:14pm
Benefit change.
by venice. 15th Jan 2019 11:52pm
West Midlands Police
by granny. 15th Jan 2019 1:10pm
New Enthusiast Forums
Found -Cav King Charles Spaniel
by squirrel. 15th Jan 2019 2:09pm
Best Vets
by granny. 12th Jan 2019 2:19pm
Headlights
by starakita. 8th Jan 2019 4:20pm
Epsom salts
by snowhite. 6th Jan 2019 12:08pm
I, Daniel Blake
by Mr1470. 5th Jan 2019 8:31pm
Popular Topics(Views 24hrs)
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Tue 8:11am
Sunset Tue 4:36pm
Local Time Tue 1:25pm
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1