Welcome to WikiWirral, sharing is what we do best.
Forum Statistics
Posts1,010,626
Topics74,654
Members12,791
Forums66
Posts in last 24hrs28
Most Online7,831
Apr 8th, 2013
Who's Online Now
56 registered members (alan128, 10 invisible), 1,136 guests, and336 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


Popular Topics(Views 7days)
30 J.F.K
New General Forums
Book batteries.
by venice. 13th Nov 2018 8:54am
J.F.K
by cools. 12th Nov 2018 12:44pm
Happy Birthday Detecting Wirral and Roobarb
by snowhite. 12th Nov 2018 10:58am
Remembrance Hamilton Square
by fish5133. 11th Nov 2018 10:19pm
New Wirral History
Rock Ferry boat disaster 1834?
by yoller. 9th Nov 2018 10:10am
Birkenhead riots
by yoller. 6th Nov 2018 9:13am
Mersey ferries, 1840s
by yoller. 28th Oct 2018 2:01pm
757 Rocks Wallasey Road Liscard
by derekdwc. 16th Oct 2018 8:04pm
756 Scrap Yard Wallasey Road Liscard
by derekdwc. 16th Oct 2018 8:00pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
No more bridge, never be the same
Over Exposed Crash Site
Topic Replies
Stop a second referndum.
by keef666. 15th Nov 2018 5:01am
What song are you listening to?
by Dilly. 14th Nov 2018 9:53pm
The Hooton Hotel
by granny. 14th Nov 2018 12:39pm
WWI's Secret Shame:
by casper. 14th Nov 2018 10:17am
Any urban explorers help!!
by Berliner. 13th Nov 2018 7:47pm
Lest we forget
by casper. 13th Nov 2018 4:30pm
320d won't pass emission test
by Habdab. 13th Nov 2018 11:58am
Fracking
by Gibbo. 13th Nov 2018 10:31am
Dynasties
by granny. 13th Nov 2018 9:37am
November
M T W T F S S
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Wirral Quilters Exhibition
by Greenwood. 12th Nov 2018 12:10pm
British Ironworks Centre Oswestry
by missmahjong. 28th Oct 2018 11:23am
Previous Topic
Next Topic
Print Topic
Rating 5
Real news or fake #1052108
30th Jan 2018 8:59pm
30th Jan 2018 8:59pm
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,348
Wallasey Village
Snodvan Offline OP

Forum Addict
Snodvan  Offline OP

Forum Addict
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,348
Wallasey Village
Someone sent me this link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...video-shows-man-punching-driver-car.html

Loads ok from Mail website ---- but I am surprised there has not been more comment on here

Snod


5 Precepts of Buddhism seem appropriate. Refrain from taking life. Refrain from taking that which is not given. Refrain from misconduct. Refrain from lying. Refrain from intoxicants which lead to loss of mindfulness
Google Ads
Re: Real news or fake [Re: Snodvan] #1052116
30th Jan 2018 10:59pm
30th Jan 2018 10:59pm
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,792
Heswallish
F
fish5133 Online content
Forum Guardian
fish5133  Online Content
Forum Guardian
F
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,792
Heswallish
quote "but I am surprised there has not been more comment on here". Footy was on..

much the same sentiments as the mail comments. Presume police not done anything because the car driver didnt want to take it further...if indeed they even contacted them.

Re: Real news or fake [Re: Snodvan] #1052120
31st Jan 2018 1:06am
31st Jan 2018 1:06am
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,094
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,094
Birkenhead
I can't see the driver reporting it, even though the pedestrian lights were on green, that does not give a car automatic right of way over a pedestrian.

Of course the pedestrian was being an idiot but there was plenty of time for the car to avoid coming so close to the pedestrian.

Unless the car driver didn't have time to react (eg pedestrian jumped out in front) he will be found guilty if he hits a pedestrian and probably if he near-misses. This pedestrian had already walked slowly across over half the road and in a very visible position, the car driver should have given him space.

The driver's car window being down in December is also suspicious, maybe he lowered it to shout abuse or maybe to reduce the fumes in the car.


In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn
Re: Real news or fake [Re: Snodvan] #1052122
31st Jan 2018 9:59am
31st Jan 2018 9:59am
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,580
wirral
E
Excoriator Offline
Forum Addict
Excoriator  Offline
Forum Addict
E
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,580
wirral
"We pay cash for videos!"

Almost certainly faked for the money and not worth commenting on.

Re: Real news or fake [Re: Snodvan] #1052152
1st Feb 2018 12:23pm
1st Feb 2018 12:23pm
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 15
Heswall
J
Jeremy Offline
Newbeee
Jeremy  Offline
Newbeee
J
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 15
Heswall
Not sure that's fake. Just standard Liscard clientele.

Would have to be pretty stupid to set that up considering the nature of the driving.

I'd almost certainly have tried my best to run him over by accident.

Re: Real news or fake [Re: Jeremy] #1052158
1st Feb 2018 1:41pm
1st Feb 2018 1:41pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,094
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,094
Birkenhead
Originally Posted by Jeremy
I'd almost certainly have tried my best to run him over by accident.


Why? Just because you are in a metal can does not give you any right to malice or any extra rights over the road. The pedestrian was crossing the road perfectly legally, the car thought he would scare him out the way.

In case law after case law it has been shown that a pedestrian has right of way over motorised vehicles. Pedestrian are allowed to walk on the road, there is no law saying they have to walk on the pavement, the only time they are not permitted to walk on a road is when told not to by a policeman.


In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn
Re: Real news or fake [Re: Snodvan] #1052252
3rd Feb 2018 12:17pm
3rd Feb 2018 12:17pm
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 15
Heswall
J
Jeremy Offline
Newbeee
Jeremy  Offline
Newbeee
J
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 15
Heswall
What you're saying is that it's not illegal to be a bellend. Quite.

The lad was deliberately being a bellend and I fail to see from that video where the car was trying to 'scare him'.

I'd almost certainly have accidentally knocked said bellend down in my efforts to escape from him as he was punching me through the window.

In this instance the victim was stuck inside their car with no way to defend themselves so they tried to remove themselves from the situation.

I have right of way so I'll stroll across the busy road.

Found a hoody for you...

[Linked Image]

Last edited by Jeremy; 3rd Feb 2018 12:19pm.
Re: Real news or fake [Re: Snodvan] #1052255
3rd Feb 2018 1:10pm
3rd Feb 2018 1:10pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,094
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,094
Birkenhead
Perhaps you are getting mixed up with America where pedestrians don't have the absolute right to walk on the roads.

The pedestrian was crossing the road and started across with plenty of time for the car to react, there was a queue immediately ahead so the car wasn't going to get anywhere anyway but the driver was too intent on scaring a pedestrian to notice that probably. The car purposely got as close to the pedestrian as possible, in fact it might have made contact.

The pedestrian had walked 25 feet in a straight line, the car was about 100 feet away from the pedestrian when he stepped onto the road

I'd be annoyed if a car got that close to me, wouldn't you?

What I am saying is that both are at fault for their different actions however the car took an unreasonable, inconsiderate and dangerous action which initiated the problem.

You can see the original video HERE which you can pause without adverts blocking out the view.

There is nothing wrong with knowing your rights is there or are you a believer in a lawless society?


In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn
Re: Real news or fake [Re: Snodvan] #1052285
4th Feb 2018 4:17am
4th Feb 2018 4:17am
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 15
Heswall
J
Jeremy Offline
Newbeee
Jeremy  Offline
Newbeee
J
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 15
Heswall
Any sensible person would not cross the road when a car was coming... it's common sense. Just because it's legal, why would you?

Re: Real news or fake [Re: Snodvan] #1052293
4th Feb 2018 6:25pm
4th Feb 2018 6:25pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,094
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,094
Birkenhead
Because you want to get to the other side.

There is absolutely no need threaten to assassinate a pedestrian because you think they are invading "YOUR" road.

The driver would probably have not taken that action if it had been another car.

A car and driver is licenced to be allowed on the road and as such are a secondary users and have numerous regulations how they are allowed to drive on that road, including being considerate to other users.

A pedestrian has absolute right to be on the road and is a primary user with minimal regulations eg they don't have to follow the line of the road or be on a specific side of the road.

The direction pedestrians are travelling in is their choice and motor vehicles have to respect that just as they wouldn't rear-end a car in front.

The real question is why did the driver choose to threaten the pedestrian with his vehicle?

Last edited by diggingdeeper; 4th Feb 2018 6:33pm.

In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn

Moderated by  Mod 

Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
The Hooton Hotel
by venice. 13th Nov 2018 4:55pm
WWI's Secret Shame:
by granny. 13th Nov 2018 9:35am
320d won't pass emission test
by DavidB. 13th Nov 2018 1:59am
Wirral Quilters Exhibition
by Greenwood. 12th Nov 2018 12:10pm
Dynasties
by cools. 12th Nov 2018 11:38am
For Sale & Free
Pro Fitness Exercise Bike
by rhoobarb2002. 10th Nov 2018 2:52pm
PC Peripherals
by Catsick. 10th Nov 2018 1:54pm
Ipad Mini 4 128gb
by Catsick. 10th Nov 2018 1:47pm
Raleigh Evo 7 Speed Folding Bicycle
by Catsick. 10th Nov 2018 1:19pm
Gainward Nvidia GTX 770 - £30
by rhoobarb2002. 9th Nov 2018 3:05pm
Member Spotlight
diggingdeeper
diggingdeeper
Birkenhead
Posts: 12,094
Joined: July 2008
Show All Member Profiles 
Newest Members
joel9, Gibbo2191, Quensh, marcjday, Lesjones10
12791 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
The Hooton Hotel
by venice. 13th Nov 2018 4:55pm
Wirral Quilters Exhibition
by Greenwood. 12th Nov 2018 12:10pm
Pension or Lump Sum
by fish5133. 9th Nov 2018 11:24pm
Stop a second referndum.
by granny. 1st Nov 2018 10:45pm
Birkenhead VE /VJ celebrations
by Nesta. 1st Nov 2018 7:09pm
News : New Topics
Taxi Drivers and Drugs
by diggingdeeper. 6th Nov 2018 4:25pm
Birkenhead tip on fire
by assassin. 6th Nov 2018 12:11am
Keep car doors locked
by cools. 3rd Nov 2018 3:23pm
Mischief night
by cools. 30th Oct 2018 10:18pm
New Enthusiast Forums
WWI's Secret Shame:
by granny. 13th Nov 2018 9:35am
320d won't pass emission test
by DavidB. 13th Nov 2018 1:59am
Dynasties
by cools. 12th Nov 2018 11:38am
Waterfront
by cools. 10th Nov 2018 10:50am
Any urban explorers help!!
by nirvanaflower. 7th Nov 2018 6:58pm
Popular Topics(Views 24hrs)
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Thu 7:38am
Sunset Thu 4:14pm
Local Time Thu 7:10am
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1