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Re: Confused
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24th Jan 2018 2:32pm
24th Jan 2018 2:32pm
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Having just watched the programmes about the disgusting state of the Worlds oceans I'm now wondering if we should be recycling plastic at all. If as suggested our waste is no longer recycled but dumped then we are contributing to the deaths of hundreds of sea creatures.So if I stop putting plastic in the grey bin & put it in the green bill will that help? What will then happen to it? Depends where its dumped.. if landfill its not going to kill any sea life.
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Re: Confused
[Re: lincle]
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24th Jan 2018 5:05pm
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Packaging accounts for only 30% of plastic produced. The bulk of it is in your clothes. Every time they are washed, tiny polyester fibres are dumped into the sea as sewage treatment does nothing to recover them.
Interestingly, though, I think evolution may have saved the day. Bad as it seems, the quantity of plastic in the ocean is only a tiny percentage of what is estimated to be dumped there. The difference is quite likely to have been eaten by bacteria. Plastic contains energy, and this means it is a potential foodstuff. I think its very likely that a number of bugs will evolve to take advantage of this. There is even a moth larva that can survive on plastic bags! Mind you, it had a head start. Its 'normal' diet was beeswax and it is a real nuisance if you are a bee!
I'm not suggesting we don't worry about it, but I think we would do well investigate what is really going on and understand what is happening before deciding how to tackle the problem, if there is one. A single eye-candy series by Attenborough is not a good basis on which to decide policy, even if the politicians are more than happy to jump on the bandwaggon.
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Re: Confused
[Re: lincle]
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24th Jan 2018 6:02pm
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Re: Confused
[Re: lincle]
#1051802
24th Jan 2018 6:47pm
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This group on USA have got together and are making jewellery out of the plastics they retrieve. It's a massive problem worldwide even what is getting washed up on small islands in the pacific.. (all to do with tides or something etc) https://www.facebook.com/4OceanBracelets/ I can't see that the proposed scheme of returnable plastic bottles will make a difference.( what is being called for at the moment) Not unless the deposit on the bottle is hefty enough to encourage the returns. Then there is the problem of storage for these things in the small local shops that sell drinks . Plastic packaging on certain foods is just as much a problem IMO, why do we need apples wrapped, cucumbers, potatoes in bags etc. ? (none of them last as long anyway, when they are packed that way) . Every household in the UK uses black bin bags .... how many does that amount to ? Plastic nappies, plastic drinking straws...we used to have paper covered in wax. Black bin bags might be bio-degradable, but there is surely some chemical residue even if they do. That in it's turn must be impacting on the landfill sites somehow. It's a bad situation, but hopefully, things will change. I think India has a better record on such things than we do.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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Re: Confused
[Re: lincle]
#1051823
25th Jan 2018 10:28am
25th Jan 2018 10:28am
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I'm not so sure about these free water points: News LinkPeople stick the neck of the used bottle right up onto the nozzle, and contaminate it with their germs.
Last edited by Gibbo; 25th Jan 2018 10:28am.
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