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Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? #1050856
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Just found this online - at the proposal stage, I believe:

Promenades and coastal locations around Wirral are being targeted by Town Hall bosses to raise £245,000 in new parking charges.

The plan, announced on 18th December by the Leader of the Council, will see parking meters installed on some of Wirral's most popular locations, and comes in the same week that parking meters were finally installed in the Borough's Country Parks, including:

North Parade, between Hoylake and Meols
South Parade, West Kirby
Derby Pool, Wallasey
Kings Parade, Wallasey
Gunsite, Wallasey
Leasowe Lighthouse

It's been posted by the Conservatives and there is a petition. there will no doubt be other petitions, once this news becomes widely known.

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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1050861
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What have the Conservatives got to do with it ?

Why doesn't the Council inform us.

Pretty appalling really. Who is about to pay to walk their dogs (for example) ?

Who is going to pay to take their children for a walk in the fresh air ?

Let them get on with it. These are the things that people remember . I have no faith in Wirral Council, they couldn't run a piss up in a brewery. Just money grabbing in this case from those who have a car.

They should go to Flintshire, and see what their parking charges are as comparisons.

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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1050862
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Country parks parking charges start on the 8th January, meters have been installed at Royden.


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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1050864
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Think we might have slagged off this idea on here a while back. Do we know how much is being charged now?

Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1050867
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8th? I bet a lot of people will be caught out - it will be interesting to see how quick the council is at pouncing on people and fining non-payers.

The Conservatives will be keen to jump on anything that will put people against the Labour Council. That was the only info I found online; if I could have found something from an impartial source I would have posted it.

Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1050869
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How much is this ridiculous scheme going to cost the ratepayers .The installation fees alone will be costly. Wasn't there a petition last year when the scheme was first announced. They'll be charging to park & shop in Moreton, Junction 1 & Morrisons ,then watch the shopping centres close !

Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1050870
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Something fundamentally wrong here. The council are elected by the people to act for the people and the borough. Since when do they do what they like and without consultation? This is typical of councils today who donít have an ounce of respect for the very people who voted them in! Making money on people who simply do not have it! Goes against everything being preached re reducing obesity and getting people out and about! I think charges should be applied for council staff Car parks instead. When are the people of wirral going to take a stand and say enough is enough? Itís well overdue.

Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Tait1969] #1050872
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Originally Posted by Tait1969
Something fundamentally wrong here. The council are elected by the people to act for the people and the borough. Since when do they do what they like and without consultation? This is typical of councils today who donít have an ounce of respect for the very people who voted them in! Making money on people who simply do not have it! Goes against everything being preached re reducing obesity and getting people out and about! I think charges should be applied for council staff Car parks instead. When are the people of wirral going to take a stand and say enough is enough? Itís well overdue.


It is the Government that are removing money from the councils, I'm not saying that Wirral Council are brilliant but they are stuck between a rock and a hard place when it comes to how to raise and spend money.

Eventually enough people in this country will realise that Tory Governments take as much money as they can and shove it upwards to their rich buddies. They borrow more money than Labour and always have done and pass that money to their rich buddies as well.


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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: diggingdeeper] #1050874
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Itís the fact they keep taking the same course of action! Easiest way is to penalise drivers and its easy money! When are these people going to be more innovative and raise money in different ways? Whatís wrong with putting things in place that people can benefit from, will be happy to pay for and for addtitional money to be made in the long run - win - win! No, itís always the same - they just take the easiest option! The councils are trying to operate like a business but donít have the business acumen! About time they employed some innovative people! There are obviously some good people working for the council but it needs a shake up! New blood = new ideas! Time for change!

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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1050875
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Originally Posted by Greenwood
8th? I bet a lot of people will be caught out - it will be interesting to see how quick the council is at pouncing on people and fining non-payers.



Maybe they could put the money towards resurfacing the Council Car Park in Heswall. Have you seen it Greenwood ? It's dreadful ! In fact I don't think there is any surface left on it, just like an unadopted road and increased the charges .


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Why have they omitted Wirral Country Park at Thurstaston ?(unless we have to pay already)

Why don't Council staff at Wallasey have to pay for parking ? That is a particular disgrace.

What about the Leisure Centres ?

No ,... they just continue to target the private businesses never the ones who are able to pay for gym ,fitness suits, swimming etc. i.e. the workers.

The fact is they've no longer got any tourism to bring any revenue into the borough. That was short sighted too.


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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: granny] #1050877
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Originally Posted by granny
Why have they omitted Wirral Country Park at Thurstaston ?(unless we have to pay already)


Because Thurstaston is owned jointly with the National trust.

Originally Posted by granny
The fact is they've no longer got any tourism to bring any revenue into the borough. That was short sighted too.


Wirral's tourism economy is currently valued at about £400m

Originally Posted by granny
Why don't Council staff at Wallasey have to pay for parking ? That is a particular disgrace.


Why? Its often thought bad that NHS staff pay for their parking. Most employers don't charge their staff for parking, why should council employees be picked on differently?

Council staff that use their vehicle for business use also get a pass to allow them to park free at Council Pay & Display car parks as one would expect.

Originally Posted by granny
What about the Leisure Centres ?


Leisure centres are heavily under-utilised already, we often have the whole sports hall to ourselves and paying £13.20 (nearly £700 for an hour a week) for a court is a ridiculous price for a public service, without a parking levy being added to it. The charge already incorporates an element towards the parking, going down the route of charging separately for showers, toilets, parking, lighting, lockers etc is a bit futile.

A lot of money is spent trying to get people fitter, the price is already discouraging far too many.


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Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1050879
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You dont need to pay if there's an orange bag over the ticket machine saying out of order. just remember to take a picture of it on your phone though.

Re: Parking charges on Wirral's promenades? [Re: Greenwood] #1050880
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Promenade parking charges are a disaster. Just have a drive to Cleveleys. The coastal road from Bispham used to be full of cars. Since they've rebuilt the sea defences and relaid the road its all pay and display and the road is now completely empty.

Everyone drives a couple of miles down the road to the free car park.

And once that changes people will just go to Fleetwood where its still free.

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You don't HAVE to drive there. And you don't have to drive to walk a dog. They are just as happy to walk anywhere in my experience. It is the conservatives - as DD has pointed out - who are responsible for this. It is the result of Local Councils being starved of cash by May and the other clowns in London.

Perhaps you should look at who you voted for in the last election before attacking the local council.

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