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Big fire in Albert dock in a car park apparently

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Tonight's International Horse of the Year Show has been cancelled. All people and horses are safe. Some nearby flats have been evacuated. On this Wirral webcam the plume of smoke can just be seen (9.30pm) to the right. An hour ago flames were also visible. I imagine it is under control now.
http://www.wirralcam.org/wirralcam2016/waterfront2.shtml

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Just saw it on the news looks very bad, hope nobody was hurt.

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That n.e.w.s link is to Amazon. Strange. Try the http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/ instead.

Happy New Year

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Another fail at all stages.

Design of car park - wrong.
Safety requirements of multi-storey car parks - wrong.
Fire fighting - fail (probably because of the above).

I remember getting taught about fire-breaks at primary school, this building had no protection between floors, the ramps are open sided with parked cars on the ramps very close to parked cars on the levels. You could literally jump from car to car right from the bottom to the top.

We seem to be a country that almost got on top of fire control to have slid to near rock bottom again. I'm sure the developers will still have a good wad in their pockets.

Who ends up paying for this - everybody that pays council tax and everybody that has insurance. The outcome of a public enquiry will be interesting.



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Latest report, at 23.04 says it has destroyed all vehicles.

Capacity 1,600 oshocked

https://news.sky.com/story/fire-has...e-liverpool-car-park-police-say-11191272

Surely that can't be as we read it ?

Happy New Year Norton


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There were some cars on the roof that survived untouched Some had dogs in them which have now been reunited with their loving owners. How loving they will be when they discover the dog has chosen to relieve itself on the upholstery remains to be seen.

Recovering the car itself from the roof may be more difficult than recovering the dog though.

Midnight last night had the Liverpool skyline a line of fireworks, except for a great black plume from the Albert dock obscuring the show.

Our poor dog is exhibiting PTSD after it all, however.

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Two dogs rescued from second floor and four dogs from seventh floor.

Was it luck that there were no dogs in the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th floors?

We used to have sprinkler systems in multi-storey car parks but as usual vandalism put an end to them. I'm sure its not beyond our capacity to create vandal-proof sprinklers that are manually operated.

Saying that, water sprinklers would produce unpredictable results once a fuel tank ruptures.


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A £30,000 1960s classic Ford mustang was destroyed in this fire, that Vauxhall motor company should foot the bill for every bit of damage.
What about sentimental valuables?
They cannot be replaced and neither can that Ford Mustang!
Also it's illegal to leave dogs in your car, let that be a lesson.

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Quote DD
"Was it luck that there were no dogs in the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th floors?"

Are you suggesting that maybe there was the odd dog died in cars on other floors and owners (or authorities)just arent letting on?


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Originally Posted by venice
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"Was it luck that there were no dogs in the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th floors?"

Are you suggesting that maybe there was the odd dog died in cars on other floors and owners (or authorities)just arent letting on?



Probably !


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I wonder who will cough the bill for that lot,does it come under the landlords Insurance or the motorist.

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Don't understand why sprinklers in buildings seem to have stopped. Seem to remember years ago everyplace had them?

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The owners who left their dogs in the cars should be prosecuted regardless of whether they survived or not. They'll all be protesting that they loved their dogs . Well NO they didn't !

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Originally Posted by cools
Don't understand why sprinklers in buildings seem to have stopped. Seem to remember years ago everyplace had them?


Sprinklers spraying water everywhere aren't the best idea in car parks or places with liquid fuel all over the place.

- If there is already a pool of burning fuel then water sprinklers can cause a pool of burning fuel to be carried to other places e.g. underneath other cars that aren't yet alight;

- Water droplets tend to be heavy enough to drop through the surface of the burning fuel where they get heated up and then turn rapidly to steam from underneath the burning fuel; causing the burning fuel to "explode", and the fire spread further.

In aircraft hangars for example they use foam based fire suppression so I guess car parks could use that, but it's a lot more expensive than just running water pipes and fitting automatic sprinkler heads every few metres, so they don't.

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