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#1049242 - 4th Dec 2017 11:07am Re: Council to charge residents for 'idling' [Re: Littlebear]
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Don't know why they don't synchronise the traffic lights on long roads if they're so worried about pollution. In Berlin the Heerstrasse has synchronised lights along it's full length. If you get through a green light and keep to the speed limit then you get green all the way for your journey. No stopping and starting all the time, which cuts down on polllution. Simples.
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#1049264 - 4th Dec 2017 6:32pm Re: Council to charge residents for 'idling' [Re: Littlebear]
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I don't think traffic management on the 8+ lane Heerstasse can be compared to the A41.

Any grid system without out long distances between junctions can't use synchronised lights without giving undue priority to one particular route unless it has split level junctions.

Most of our urban roads are also part of the domestic road system. Admittedly the Germans planned way ahead of us but they had much more international traffic on their roads unlike our little island.
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#1049383 - 6th Dec 2017 1:56pm Re: Council to charge residents for 'idling' [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Lived in W Berlin for 7+ years so think I know the area quite well, having done daily travelling up the Strasse. My comments are pretty valid, I think for long roads with myriad traffic lights. Don't believe everything you read on Google.
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#1049388 - 6th Dec 2017 3:14pm Re: Council to charge residents for 'idling' [Re: Littlebear]
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Then you will know that Heerstrasse consist of the Bundesstrasse PLUS two roads either side of the Bundesstrasse.

The two side roads take local traffic and means that the junctions across the Bunderstrasse can be much further apart because there are fewer roads join the Bundesstrasse.

Yes we could do the same but it would take a tremendous amount of demolition to create a 60 yard wide path that the Heerstrasse is for most of its length through Berlin. The A41 is about 20 yards wide, the M53 is only 30 yards wide even at the 6 lane sections.
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