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#1048089 - 22nd Nov 2017 2:29pm Murderer walks free
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Does someone want to explain to me why this has walked free from court??

What happened to the mandatory 5 year sentence for carrying a knife?

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#1048093 - 22nd Nov 2017 5:16pm Re: Murderer walks free [Re: _Ste_]
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Doesnt seem right does it not even getting done for the knife carrying . Bit more understandable that he got off for murder though if the jury still couldnt all agree after all those hours of looking into the evidence. Stockbridge village is a rough area, do you think the jury were scared ?

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#1048095 - 22nd Nov 2017 5:28pm Re: Murderer walks free [Re: _Ste_]
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Laughing all about it with his rat of a mum and mates...

No doubt justice shall be served, we will see him in the paper again soon murdered.

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#1048096 - 22nd Nov 2017 5:29pm Re: Murderer walks free [Re: _Ste_]
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That's why we have courts of law. To hear both sides, examine evidence and witness statements, see the accused, and allow ordinary folk to come to the best conclusion they can.

Most of us are not clever enough to come to a verdict simply on the basis of a tabloid report or bloodlust.

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#1048098 - 22nd Nov 2017 6:09pm Re: Murderer walks free [Re: _Ste_]
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Maximum of 4 years as an offensive weapon, no guidline sentencing for blades http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/offensive_weapons_knives_bladed_and_pointed_articles/#a14

The jury seemed to think that as he was so outnumbered that it was a mitigation?

As he admitted he had the knife for self-defence that should have gone against him, if he said he carried it as a deterrent that is a lesser offence because there is no intent to harm.
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#1048104 - 22nd Nov 2017 7:36pm Re: Murderer walks free [Re: _Ste_]
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Just found out the five years is for a firearm not a blade however he still should of been jailed for carrying.
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#1048139 - 23rd Nov 2017 12:29pm Re: Murderer walks free [Re: _Ste_]
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https://www.police.uk/crime-prevention-advice/possession-of-weapons/

If you are caught illegally carrying a knife or a gun, even an imitation one you will be arrested and prosecuted. It is no excuse to say it was for your own protection or you were carrying it for someone else.

So perhaps he was not charged with that offence.

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#1048184 - 23rd Nov 2017 7:42pm Re: Murderer walks free [Re: _Ste_]
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lets hope he will be walking around for the rest of his life (however short that is) always looking over his shoulder..

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#1048537 - 27th Nov 2017 11:13am Re: Murderer walks free [Re: _Ste_]
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He'll get an awful crick in his neck if he does that, as well as bumping into things all the time.

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#1048725 - 28th Nov 2017 3:24pm Re: Murderer walks free [Re: _Ste_]
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How long had he served before this court appearance? Maybe that attributed to time served for carrying?
They all sound like a really nice bunch of lads anyway. crazy

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