It is nothing like paying your bar Bill. Paying your bar Bill for drinks you have had is fine but you wouldn't be expected to pay for future drinks you may have had if you had remained a member of the club.
We are the 5th largest economy and have food banks, lack of access to medical treatment, closing down of public services etc. The EU has done nothing for the people of the UK apart from take money off us, but the rich are still getting richer.
Germany must be around the largest , but it still needs a lot of food banks and did even before Mrs M opened the floodgates . Wonder if we are being mislead a lot about the success of the German economy.
It is nothing like paying your bar Bill. Paying your bar Bill for drinks you have had is fine but you wouldn't be expected to pay for future drinks you may have had if you had remained a member of the club.
Exactly Dilly, and the VAT may have been reduced in the meantime.
Although maybe not with the intentions of EU to have a centralised Tax system, which ultimately means centralised everything.(Pay, benefits, mortgages, pensions, plus more).
I firmly believe that once out, all these issues that have been for so long uneventful, and ministers being gagged because of committed changes in the direction of the EU,will come into fruition once again. There are no two ways about it that our Ministers have been unable to voice anything out of line with EU Command Centre for a long time. Apart from Farage and Boris, for which I'm thankful for both as without them we would have little understanding of what was, has ,and will be going on in a future within the EU. When no discussion comes out of authority , no vision, no information that is communicated to the people of each nation other that by their own Governments who are obliged to give the smallest amount and how it will work, there is something very dangerous going on. Isn't how the Nazis gained strength, by people being shut up, afraid to speak out, and brainwashed into thinking everything was right for them ? I'm glad Boris speaks up, because although admittedly he makes some gaffs at times, he does at least say what he means and with the continued onslaught of trying to have him removed (I really don't know why Labour are so intent on this issue) before he goes, maybe Diane Abbott should go as she sits as Home Secretary in waiting. THAT is the biggest scare that this country faced this century!
Ex. I bet your masses of shares have gone up A LOT since Brexit !!! It's not all doom and gloom is it, but you didn't mention the markets, and according to many the country hasn't collapsed since Brexit, as promised, we are increasing production, employment and a lot more so how you can say UK is failing I don't know. Maybe it's wishful thinking on your part but I am very positive and I think we owe it to ourselves to embrace what we can now and stop fracturing our own country for the benefit of none.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
... you wouldn't be expected to pay for future drinks you may have had if you had remained a member of the club.
There is no question of paying for benefits we won't receive. But if you have - say - argued for the club to build an extension, and agreed to paying a share of this, then surely you should pay that before leaving rather than expecting all the other members to pay it for you?
It is nothing like paying your bar Bill. Paying your bar Bill for drinks you have had is fine but you wouldn't be expected to pay for future drinks you may have had if you had remained a member of the club.
Exactly Dilly, and the VAT may have been reduced in the meantime.
Although maybe not with the intentions of EU to have a centralised Tax system, which ultimately means centralised everything.(Pay, benefits, mortgages, pensions, plus more).
I firmly believe that once out, all these issues that have been for so long uneventful, and ministers being gagged because of committed changes in the direction of the EU,will come into fruition once again. There are no two ways about it that our Ministers have been unable to voice anything out of line with EU Command Centre for a long time. Apart from Farage and Boris, for which I'm thankful for both as without them we would have little understanding of what was, has ,and will be going on in a future within the EU. When no discussion comes out of authority , no vision, no information that is communicated to the people of each nation other that by their own Governments who are obliged to give the smallest amount and how it will work, there is something very dangerous going on. Isn't how the Nazis gained strength, by people being shut up, afraid to speak out, and brainwashed into thinking everything was right for them ? I'm glad Boris speaks up, because although admittedly he makes some gaffs at times, he does at least say what he means and with the continued onslaught of trying to have him removed (I really don't know why Labour are so intent on this issue) before he goes, maybe Diane Abbott should go as she sits as Home Secretary in waiting. THAT is the biggest scare that this country faced this century!
Ex. I bet your masses of shares have gone up A LOT since Brexit !!! It's not all doom and gloom is it, but you didn't mention the markets, and according to many the country hasn't collapsed since Brexit, as promised, we are increasing production, employment and a lot more so how you can say UK is failing I don't know. Maybe it's wishful thinking on your part but I am very positive and I think we owe it to ourselves to embrace what we can now and stop fracturing our own country for the benefit of none.
I'm sorry granny, but unless you can substantiate all these arguments your post comes across as a rambling rant, which it is pointless attempting to reply to.
Arguments should be based on reality. Here's one which exposes the "It will hurt them more than it will hurt us" argument, so ofte parroted by brexiteers (without any supporting facts).
44% of our exports go to the EU. 15% of theirs come to us. In the worst case if both these exports streams came to a sudden halt, who do you think would feel it most?
It is nothing like paying your bar Bill. Paying your bar Bill for drinks you have had is fine but you wouldn't be expected to pay for future drinks you may have had if you had remained a member of the club.
Exactly Dilly, and the VAT may have been reduced in the meantime.
Although maybe not with the intentions of EU to have a centralised Tax system, which ultimately means centralised everything.(Pay, benefits, mortgages, pensions, plus more).
I firmly believe that once out, all these issues that have been for so long uneventful, and ministers being gagged because of committed changes in the direction of the EU,will come into fruition once again. There are no two ways about it that our Ministers have been unable to voice anything out of line with EU Command Centre for a long time. Apart from Farage and Boris, for which I'm thankful for both as without them we would have little understanding of what was, has ,and will be going on in a future within the EU. When no discussion comes out of authority , no vision, no information that is communicated to the people of each nation other that by their own Governments who are obliged to give the smallest amount and how it will work, there is something very dangerous going on. Isn't how the Nazis gained strength, by people being shut up, afraid to speak out, and brainwashed into thinking everything was right for them ? I'm glad Boris speaks up, because although admittedly he makes some gaffs at times, he does at least say what he means and with the continued onslaught of trying to have him removed (I really don't know why Labour are so intent on this issue) before he goes, maybe Diane Abbott should go as she sits as Home Secretary in waiting. THAT is the biggest scare that this country faced this century!
Ex. I bet your masses of shares have gone up A LOT since Brexit !!! It's not all doom and gloom is it, but you didn't mention the markets, and according to many the country hasn't collapsed since Brexit, as promised, we are increasing production, employment and a lot more so how you can say UK is failing I don't know. Maybe it's wishful thinking on your part but I am very positive and I think we owe it to ourselves to embrace what we can now and stop fracturing our own country for the benefit of none.
I'm sorry granny, but unless you can substantiate all these arguments your post comes across as a rambling rant, which it is pointless attempting to reply to.
Well, you haven't substantiated any of your doom and gloom claims, they are simply your own personal projection for the future of UK.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
France and Germany want to see common basic corporation tax rates across the EU, according to reports
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
Nothing in your post precludes the fact that 44% of what we export goes to the EU, whilst only 15% of theirs comes to us. What percentage of our imports come from the EU is even worse news, for we shall find ourselves paying tariffs on over 50% of our exports!
The graph implies that we export, not 44% of our trade to the EU, but OVER 50%!
Your post, in other words, claims that it will hurt us even more than I said!
If that is what you intended, thank you for your support.
France and Germany want to see common basic corporation tax rates across the EU, according to reports
So?
It's nothing to do with us once we are out.
I expect they are concerned about a 'race to the bottom' between member nations, each reducing corporation tax. The UK seems to be keen to have such a race, and once out it can do so. Even within the EU, the UK could, of course, veto it across the EU but that's one of the things we give up by leaving.
The graph implies that we export, not 44% of our trade to the EU, but OVER 50%!
But we will receive tariffs on our imports and as we import more than we export the net balance is in our favour.
There's a real danger that the left will drag Britain back to the 1970s, with secure well-paid jobs, ample housing, properly-funded NHS and social care, free tuition, student grants, final salary pensions, affordable rail fares and fabulous films and music. David Osland 2025
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The figures are reality! I voted to remain and posted my intention on Wiki. I would now vote to leave given the chance. Farmers are subsidised not to grow food in a starving World and countries that call themselves democracies thwart the peoples will. You have made your mind up no matter what the reality is so I reason on facts. I think it is a !5% surplus in their favour.( spin)
Nothing was mentioned about strong border control or how she intends to keep the British people safe from Islamic extremists or any terror attacks, or illegal aliens coming into the UK. All lies as usual no wonder she was taking coughing fits. She must think the we are all just like sponges to soak all the same old rubbish she speaks and expects us to believe her. We need a strong Prime minister to take over and sort this Brexit out as soon as possible.
France and Germany want to see common basic corporation tax rates across the EU, according to reports
So?
It's nothing to do with us once we are out.
I expect they are concerned about a 'race to the bottom' between member nations, each reducing corporation tax. The UK seems to be keen to have such a race, and once out it can do so. Even within the EU, the UK could, of course, veto it across the EU but that's one of the things we give up by leaving.
You ask me to substantiate my claims.....then you don't like it. Here's another should we have stayed in the EU .
EU wants control of YOUR pension: Brussels' secret plan REVEALED
The European Union is planning a power grab for the UK welfare state in a bid to take control of pensions, benefits and the minimum wage.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
