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#1044776 - 29th Sep 2017 12:13pm Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly?
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From time to time my gardening customers ask me to do a bit of shed attic clearing. Recently done one where there was a number of tied up bags so I thought would check what I was taking tip. Turned out to be a lot of new sealed items all the same. Not particularly valueable. Retailing on ebay around 10 for 15 inc posting. Now I know they are nothing to do with my customer but possibly her son. Done a bit of searching to see if a burglary at a potential source but no luck.
Don't particularly want to ask the customer about them.
Obviously would like to benefit from selling them but don't want to drop myself in the proverbial. Added complication in that the customer works for the police!!!

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#1044777 - 29th Sep 2017 12:27pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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I would worry Fish, I have never heard of cash con:::ters being done for handling stolen goods, and they do it on a daily basis. I think it is a case of if you handled them knowing them to be stolen that breaks the law.


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#1044779 - 29th Sep 2017 12:33pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Actually came across a recent burglary at a potential source..although miles away...have asked the local constabulary there as they have a crime number..at least want to cover my back. .
Just read up a little "Believeing" and "Knowing" them to be stolen are not the same.
I will do my due diligence before selling them.... may even offer a few free ones on here!!

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#1044781 - 29th Sep 2017 12:45pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Ok I will take a chance and give you a tenner for the lot smile

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#1044783 - 29th Sep 2017 1:04pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Why don't you point them out to the owner of the shed and ask them where they came from? They may have been honestly acquired, and he may not be interested in what you do with them.

At least you will have taken 'due diligence' to ascertain whether you may be handling stolen goods or not. Even taking them to the tip might be construed as illegally disposing of evidence or something.

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#1044785 - 29th Sep 2017 1:10pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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I'm intrigued to know what is in them smile

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#1044788 - 29th Sep 2017 1:25pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: Dilly]
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Originally Posted By: Dilly
I'm intrigued to know what is in them smile


Have you got batteries and an air pump at the ready?
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#1044791 - 29th Sep 2017 4:51pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Just a thought . Could your customer have asked you to get rid because they know what they are and don't want to be seen to be associated with them?

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#1044794 - 29th Sep 2017 5:45pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Originally Posted By: diggingdeeper
Originally Posted By: Dilly
I'm intrigued to know what is in them smile


Have you got batteries and an air pump at the ready?


I have no idea what you are suggesting DD smile

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#1044795 - 29th Sep 2017 7:20pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Very boring items really..DD has got me guessing.. EX. if they had been honestly acquired I wouldn't think someone would have gone to the trouble of re packing them as they have. Nothing else in the shed that might have given me a clue and not the sort of thing you would specifically target bit heavy and bulky and lowish value. Possibly someone pilfering them over time from a place of work.
Possibly a job lot acquired to sell on...
Spooky as I was typing the police phoned me...at least not from the burglary in Yorkshire.....There advice....if don't hear from them in a week or two do with them what I want

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#1044796 - 29th Sep 2017 7:30pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Originally Posted By: fish5133
Very boring items really..DD has got me guessing.. EX. if they had been honestly acquired I wouldn't think someone would have gone to the trouble of re packing them as they have. Nothing else in the shed that might have given me a clue and not the sort of thing you would specifically target bit heavy and bulky and lowish value. Possibly someone pilfering them over time from a place of work.
Possibly a job lot acquired to sell on...
Spooky as I was typing the police phoned me...at least not

from the burglary in Yorkshire.....There advice....if don't hear from them in a week or two do with them what I want

Ok I raise my bid to 15 quid for the lot smile

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#1044797 - 29th Sep 2017 7:45pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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You would be quids in Dilly..reckon about 250 worth at retail prices..Not that you would have any use for all of them....

When in the clear. think I will photo a part and put it on here in the "what is it thread" and the first correct guess or guesses pmd to me can have a free one.

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#1044798 - 29th Sep 2017 8:03pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Come on fish, give us a clue sherlock

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#1044804 - 29th Sep 2017 11:39pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: Dilly]
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Come on fish, give us a clue sherlock


As its the subject of a police investigation I am obliged not to say anything that may be taken down and used in evidence against me.

and its not knickers !!

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#1044805 - 30th Sep 2017 9:56am Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Unless the police gave you this instruction in writing it's unprovable. I'd be inclined to write to them or send them an email confirming what you have been told, in writing, and tell them you are going to sell them.

That way, it's on record and you can show you have done all you can to obey the law. You do not want to find yourself prosecuted because someone - possibly inadvertently - gave you wrong information.

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#1044837 - 30th Sep 2017 3:29pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Cheers EX....I did email them explaining the situation but they have only responded by phone call. Apparently Yorkshire police have forwarded my email to Merseyside police and put it on the police national database. Opening a can of worms ! Not as if the things would make decent xmas gifts.

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#1045131 - 4th Oct 2017 11:02am Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Sounds VERY intriguing... let us know the outcome .

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#1045140 - 4th Oct 2017 11:49am Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Be warned ladies !

You can be prosecuted for handling swollen goods smile

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#1045159 - 4th Oct 2017 1:00pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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How Rude ...lol

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#1045206 - 4th Oct 2017 10:13pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Police have given me the all clear..so some clues..PM me.

1) better suited for left handed men than women

2) with a little addition could be used in love making

3) not sure if used when the tall ships came to Liverpool

4) 8+2=1

5) useless for sowing

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#1045227 - 5th Oct 2017 12:26pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Flipping heck fish , those are SOOOO random -- you should ask that people give you the connections they see to the clues too .Hope you will put them online here afterwards , should be a good laugh.At the moment, I have no ideas at all!

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#1045240 - 5th Oct 2017 4:39pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Difficult not trying to make it too obvious. how about a random photo


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#1045242 - 5th Oct 2017 6:08pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Oh yeah! its a ........... erm , a whatsit thingy. Obvious now liar

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#1045245 - 5th Oct 2017 6:26pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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sorry venice ...someone who has used them would know....that's why I gave first clue...I could equally have said "better suited for right handed men than women" for risk of being sexist..

I reckon Dilly has used them and sure he may give you a hand with the clues



Edited by fish5133 (5th Oct 2017 6:29pm)

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#1045249 - 5th Oct 2017 9:23pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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I think the clue is in hand, but can't put my finger on it yet sherlock

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#1045250 - 5th Oct 2017 9:33pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Can make no sense of the clues, whatsover- however the picture looks 'familiar'

Teddies? Slippers? think
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#1045251 - 5th Oct 2017 9:38pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Welding gloves perhaps????

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#1045255 - 5th Oct 2017 9:54pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: cools]
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Welding gloves perhaps????


Don't know what you get up to Cools, but welding gloves being used in lovemaking? nono

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#1045258 - 5th Oct 2017 10:09pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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I wanna say oven mitts but the love making and tallships clues are throwing me.

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#1045259 - 5th Oct 2017 10:11pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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Hot stuff me Dilly, (I wish) haha...So you haven't read 50 shades of grey then???...

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#1045264 - 5th Oct 2017 11:10pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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ok guys venice got close enough as did others Cools and. Actually riggers gloves

1) better suited for left handed men than women (left was just to throw you...mainly used by men..heavy jobs)

2) with a little addition could be used in love making (add g and you get glove making )

3) not sure if used when the tall ships came to Liverpool (rigging)

4) 8+2=1 8 fingers plus 2 thumbs equals 1 pair

5) useless for sowing (that was to suggest hands and fingers)

photo is the stitching

apologise for randomness... game over.

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#1045266 - 5th Oct 2017 11:22pm Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: fish5133]
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It was a nice change fish . I miss the "where is and what is that" forum , it hasnt been used for ages . My camera misbehaving or Id post something there. Anyone fancy resurrecting that forum ? ( Sub heading under forum entertainment heading )

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#1045291 - 6th Oct 2017 10:25am Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? [Re: cools]
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