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HERITAGE RECEPTORS #1044178
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Just found this amongst my bits and bobs. Thought it might be of interest. Didn't really know how to title it but it's self explanatory relating to Peel Holdings Archaeological search on the Wallasey Dock area.


Appendix 11.1 Archaeological Legislative Framework, Criteria

for Assessment and Known Heritage Receptors, Sites and

Find Spots


APPENDIX 11.1:

ARCHAEOLOGICAL LEGISLATIVE FRAMEWORK, CRITERIA FOR ASSESSMENT AND KNOWN

HERITAGE RECEPTORS, SITES AND FIND SPOTS

LEGISLATIVE FRAMEWORK

National Heritage Act 1983 (Amended 2002)

The National Heritage Act 1983 established the Historic Buildings and Monuments commission of England, more

commonly known as English Heritage, and provided for the establishment of services of education public information,

research and record keeping.

English Heritage (along with Cadw in Wales, Historic Scotland and the DOE in Northern Ireland) act as government’s

advisors on the built heritage. The primary responsibilities of English Heritage are defined as far as is practicable to:

Secure the preservation of ancient monuments and historic buildings situated in England;

Promote the preservation and enhancement of the character and appearance of Conservation Areas situated in

England; and

Promote the public’s enjoyment of, and advance their knowledge of, ancient monuments and historic buildings

situated in England, and their preservation.

Town and Country Planning Act 1990 (As Amended)

Archaeological work can be secured either by the use of a planning condition or by a legal agreement under Section

106 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 (a planning obligation).

PLANNING POLICY

Wirral Unitary Development Plan 2000

The Wirral UDP was adopted in 2000. Its policies were saved for three years in September 2004, and the Council

applied to the Secretary of State to extend further again in 2007.

Policies CHO1 and CH1 explain that development proposals must aim to protect Listed Buildings, structures and other

features of recognised architectural or historic importance, historic areas of distinctive quality and character and

important archaeological sites and monuments.

Policy CH25 relates to non-scheduled archaeological remains. It states that where there are development proposals

liable to affect areas of known or suspected important un-scheduled archaeological remains, the potential importance

of the interest (in terms of rarity, condition and age of remains) and whether it is desirable or practical (owing to the

fragility or importance of the remains) to preserve them in situ will be considered.


Peel Land and Property (Ports) Limited Volume 2: Environmental Statement – Technical Appendices

West Float, Wirral Waters, International Trade Centre


GAZETTEER OF KNOWN HERITAGE RECEPTORS, SITES AND FIND SPOTS

The details of all known heritage receptors, former sites and the details of stray finds within the study area are detailed

on Table 11.1.

Table 11.1 Known heritage receptors, sites and find spots

HA

number

Designation LB/NMR/MSMR

numbers

National

Grid Ref.

Period Description

1 – NMR 67588 SJ 30 90

(locality)

Unknown Human skull and red deer leg bone; said to be the

remains of “an ancient forest bed”; found in 1850,

c.10 feet below the bed of Wallasey Pool

2 – MSMR 3090/9 SJ 3010

9056

NA /

Early Modern

Spring/Docks. A watercourse was depicted on the

1844 map, before construction of the docks. It was

later incorporated into the dock design, probably

becoming Graving Dock No 1. A graving dock is a

dry dock where a ship can be repaired. Graving

Docks 1 & 2 were constructed on the site in 1859

and are still extant, to some extent.

3 – MSMR 3090/13 SJ 302

909

Roman Coin of Valentinian II

4 Grade II

Listed

LB 444453

NMR 67590

NMR 509886

MSMR 3091/1

SJ 30190

91020

Post-medieval

(1621; barn

pos. C16th)

“The Old House”/”Birds House”: dwelling and

adjoining barn on Limekiln Lane. The house still

stands.

5 – none SJ 30032

90905

Post-medieval

(C17th)

The 1665 map shows a road heading south to meet

Wallasey Pool at what is now Wallasey Bridge.

Although no bridge is indicated on that map, it

suggests the presence of a bridge or ferry.

6 – NMR 1511394

MSMR 3090/16

MSMR 3090/17

SJ 3019

9012

Post-medieval

(C18th)

Birkenhead Foundry; three casting halls and a boiler

yard on the corner of Beaufort Road and Lincoln

Street. The building still stands but appears to have

been rebuilt extensively.

7 – MSMR 2991/16 SJ 2961

9101

Post-medieval

(late C18th)

Two tidal watermills; indicated on 1797 map
.

8 – MSMR 3090/4 SJ 3037

9098

Post-medieval

(late C18th)

Poulton Manor House, Sherlock Lane (between

Poulton Road and Limekiln Lane)

9 – MSMR 3091/6 SJ 3021

9106

Post-medieval ‘The Old Pool Inn’

10 – MSMR 3091/7 SJ 3026

9116

Post-medieval Poulton Hall (1652 country house, enlarged in 1720,

1840 and later) Peel Land and Property (Ports) Limited Volume 2: Environmental Statement – Technical Appendices

West Float, Wirral Waters, International Trade Centre


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N.B.

At the bottom of the page there is a reference made to Poulton Hall, and the dates 1652 , 1720 and 1840 are relating to Poulton Hall ,Bebington.

Have they got confused ?

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It appears they have, Poulton Hall, map below, built approx. 1652,

Poulton Hall, Wallasey, Mill Rd & Poulton Rd built approx. 1800.

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Thanks Bert.


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In relevance to the old maps, can someone explain how they were done ?
I understand how engravings were used (not how engravings were made)

It is said that ;

* Map making became increasingly common in the reign of Elizabeth I made possible by advances in surveying technology and printing from engraved copper plates. Accurate mapping of the whole country became increasingly important.*

How was the surveying complied ? Would it have been done by someone walking the length and breadth of the country and making hand written maps ? That sounds a difficult task !

Would it have been information compiled from local people in each area, village, house, hill, lake, pond, river etc. etc.,
or would it have been done by different methods , although I cannot think what ?
IF it was done by a local chieftan passing on the information,to the necessary office, there could in that case be 'drawn' records of the original engravings.

Still don't know how engravings were made or on what. I have tried to read about it but some things are not absorbed by the gentle, female mind grin

Any ideas please ?



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Eventually there were huge numbers of teams of people to get the accuracy in a quick time but few maps were produced without reference to previous less accurate map, accuracy built up with time - as did some mistakes.

The first proper British survey was of Scotland which took 8 years to complete and used about 50 people in 6 teams. Only significant points were measured accurately, general land in-between was often estimated.


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Do you know what the early symbols represented. i.e

Drawing of a church, = church.

Drawing of a House..... was that a Manor House or a Hall like Bidston Hall or representative of a hamlet or small village.

Drawing of a tree.......woods ?

Found this, it's quite interesting.(you have probably seen it before DD and Bert)

http://www.oldmapsonline.org/map/britishlibrary/001ROY000018D03U00084000







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Thanks again


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