WikiWirral is where great friendships are made.
Forum Statistics
Posts1,020,479
Topics75,179
Members13,112
Forums66
Posts in last 24hrs37
Most Online13,060
Sep 14th, 2019
Who's Online Now
30 registered members (8 invisible), 1,374 guests, and327 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


Popular Topics(Views 7days)
New General Forums
State of the Nation
by diggingdeeper. 15th Oct 2019 5:23pm
World's Best Council Estate
by diggingdeeper. 28th Sep 2019 1:56pm
Funny Pics and Posts
by neddy. 2nd Feb 2013 4:21pm
Count to 1,000,000
by Nobody. 16th May 2011 12:40pm
New Wirral History
WHERE IS/WAS TONER ROAD, LISCARD
by moretonkiwi. 27th Sep 2019 4:25am
some downloadable pdfs from Cheshire Local History
by derekdwc. 26th Sep 2019 12:44pm
Where is/was this Station Hotel
by derekdwc. 13th Mar 2019 11:44am
Long-forgotten brook.
by Excoriator. 17th Sep 2017 7:37pm
St Werburgh's, Birkenhead
by Roslynmuse. 13th Aug 2014 7:19pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
Boaty McBoatface takes shape
The gathering storm: Mersey waterfront today
Topic Replies
England rugby
by cools. 19th Oct 2019 4:32pm
Defend Democracy Protests
by cools. 19th Oct 2019 4:30pm
Louise Ellman
by pacef8. 18th Oct 2019 9:54pm
Chester Street Tunnel Birkenhead
by diggingdeeper. 18th Oct 2019 9:47pm
Jimmy savilles little cottage in Scotland.
by diggingdeeper. 18th Oct 2019 3:52pm
vacuum cleaner
by lincle. 18th Oct 2019 1:09pm
What song are you listening to?
by eggandchips. 18th Oct 2019 8:20am
Timing Belt change vauxhall Zafiria 59
by Gibbo. 17th Oct 2019 10:43am
Extinction Rebellion
by snowhite. 17th Oct 2019 10:07am
October
M T W T F S S
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Question Time in Wallasey
by granny. 29th Sep 2019 9:51pm
Previous Topic
Next Topic
Print Topic
Rate Topic
Phoenix club E Port #1044068
8th Sep 2017 5:27pm
8th Sep 2017 5:27pm
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 368
Upton, Wirral
L
locomotive Online content OP
Old Hand
locomotive  Online Content OP
Old Hand
L
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 368
Upton, Wirral
Does anybody know what the phoenix Club building in Ellesmere Port was built for? it seems rather ornate for a social Club more like a civic hall type place.

Google Ads
Re: Phoenix club E Port [Re: locomotive] #1044074
8th Sep 2017 9:06pm
8th Sep 2017 9:06pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,813
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,813
Birkenhead
Absolutely wild guess but it might have been offices for the steelworks across the road or it could have been a works club for the same. I think the steelworks started in 1908 as Wolverhampton Corrugated Iron Works, then Summers took them over, then HH Robertson (Robertson-thain) was there site then British Steel took them over.

Greenalls brewery had the club in 1978, they used to have a good archive/History department. The ornate club building was definitely there in 1950.


In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn
Re: Phoenix club E Port [Re: diggingdeeper] #1044124
10th Sep 2017 7:34pm
10th Sep 2017 7:34pm
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 368
Upton, Wirral
L
locomotive Online content OP
Old Hand
locomotive  Online Content OP
Old Hand
L
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 368
Upton, Wirral
I never thought of that but it's the most logical answer, just can't prove it. My Father in Law lost an arm in an accident in the ironworks during the war, sadly he's deceased otherwise I'd have asked him, but I think you're right, next time I'm in the Port I'll nip in the reference library and enquire. Thanks

Re: Phoenix club E Port [Re: locomotive] #1044128
11th Sep 2017 12:31am
11th Sep 2017 12:31am
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,813
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,813
Birkenhead
Looking at some old maps, it was built between 1929 and 1937, roughly the same time as Cromwell road itself. It corresponded with the factory straight across the road, not the ironworks that were further down the road that were much older. It was marked as "Club" in 1937.


In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn
Re: Phoenix club E Port [Re: diggingdeeper] #1044129
11th Sep 2017 6:57am
11th Sep 2017 6:57am
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,102
tranmere
B
bert1 Offline

Wiki Veteran
bert1  Offline

Wiki Veteran
B
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,102
tranmere
Cromwell Rd is mentioned in the 1914 directory trades section for a building contractor, that's about all.

The only mention for a club in the 1923 Kelly's Directory is,

United Service,
John McNay (Sec)
Cromwell rd.
Ellesmere Port, Bhead.

As far as I know, United Services Clubs were originally Gentlemen's clubs for Army & Navy officers, etc.

The building certainly looks the part.


God help us,
Come yourself,
Don't send Jesus,
This is no place for children.


Bertieone.
Re: Phoenix club E Port [Re: locomotive] #1044134
11th Sep 2017 9:01am
11th Sep 2017 9:01am
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,053
South Wirral
B
buddy Online content
Forum Veteran
buddy  Online Content
Forum Veteran
B
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,053
South Wirral
I've been inside the building a couple of times - all I can tell you is having worked for H.H.Robertson for 25 years it had nothing to do with them (1972-1997 closure) - of course many employees used the club as their local/and other activities fishing club/dominoes etc.

Re: Phoenix club E Port [Re: locomotive] #1044146
11th Sep 2017 1:47pm
11th Sep 2017 1:47pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,813
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,813
Birkenhead
Well done Bert, strange that the club and the road doesn't appear on the 1929 map, but that may just have been a revision issue which often relies on 3rd party information for any changes.


In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn

Moderated by  Mod 

Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Chester Street Tunnel Birkenhead
by Chatto66. 18th Oct 2019 8:58pm
Jimmy savilles little cottage in Scotland.
by snowhite. 17th Oct 2019 9:35am
Louise Ellman
by granny. 17th Oct 2019 12:56am
Timing Belt change vauxhall Zafiria 59
by rossie. 16th Oct 2019 7:45pm
Extinction Rebellion
by granny. 7th Oct 2019 6:06pm
For Sale & Free
vacuum cleaner
by lincle. 18th Oct 2019 1:09pm
Computer Desk
by Catsick. 9th Oct 2019 11:49am
Computer Desk
by Catsick. 5th Oct 2019 9:35am
Laser Printer (USB / network)
by Gibbo. 3rd Oct 2019 11:11am
sewing machine
by lincle. 3rd Oct 2019 8:31am
Member Spotlight
Gibbo
Gibbo
Oxton
Posts: 2,128
Joined: December 2010
Show All Member Profiles 
Newest Members
Chatto66, Biggs84, Carson, Bishti, Philbill
13112 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
Chester Street Tunnel Birkenhead
by Chatto66. 18th Oct 2019 8:58pm
Question Time in Wallasey
by derekdwc. 29th Sep 2019 12:12pm
Recent road repairs
by Littlebear. 26th Aug 2019 11:21am
News : New Topics
Louise Ellman
by granny. 17th Oct 2019 12:56am
Extinction Rebellion
by granny. 7th Oct 2019 6:06pm
New Brighton Adventure Land
by cools. 25th Sep 2019 10:34pm
New art ... by Dotmaster @ NewBrighton
by GaryFromWirral. 21st Sep 2019 3:20pm
Police, Rock ferry.
by diggingdeeper. 19th Sep 2019 8:52pm
New Enthusiast Forums
Jimmy savilles little cottage in Scotland.
by snowhite. 17th Oct 2019 9:35am
Timing Belt change vauxhall Zafiria 59
by rossie. 16th Oct 2019 7:45pm
When Logins Become Redundant
by diggingdeeper. 24th Sep 2019 8:10am
Spark plugs
by Pete_M. 16th Sep 2019 8:14am
Downton Abbey Film
by cools. 13th Sep 2019 3:30pm
Popular Topics(Views 24hrs)
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Sat 7:47am
Sunset Sat 6:07pm
Local Time Sat 4:43pm
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1