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Originally Posted by lollipop
The marching season is upon us from this weekend Ex... "Crackpot orange men" all around..... That you do have right.


Didn't know you lived in Rossnowlagh lolli?


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Ah...Beautiful Donegal.

I don't, not even near it.

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I thought that was the only Orange Walk in Ireland.


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Lol!!!! The only one you might see on the tele.

Lots of lodges will do local little tin whistle mini parades, a few bomb fires from the opposition. All good fun the 12th. I know all you get is what Peace and harmony were living in here. Well its on the boil again I can tell you. Bloody brexit !!

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Originally Posted by granny
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The queen's contribution to tourism is exaggerated to a ridiculous extent. It might even HELP tourism were she to stand down. Places like Buck House, and Balmoral could be fully opened to wealthy gawping grockles and we'd make a bloody fortune.

I had to laugh at the prince saying he didn't really want to be king the other day. If he'd really wanted to go there would be nothing easier. All he has to do is to abdicate. But of course he won't. It is far too good a racket to walk away from.

One further point. I wonder if anyone here has seen the possibility of this generous six million windfall being related to the queen asking Treeza to form a government? After all, if the PM can make a deal with the crackpot orangemen, then why not a little haggling with the queen too?


I do wonder sometimes Ex ?!!

Buckingham Palace does open to the public, Balmoral and Estate does open to the public.
Prince Harry was the one who made the comments about the Monarchy, he is not likely to be a King and will therefore never be able to abdicate !

Not sure which newspaper you read, but they don't half get things wrong !


Good that you wonder at least sometimes. Infrequently is better than nothing.

I was well aware of the partial openings at Bucknghm and Balmoral, which is why I was very careful to say FULLY in my post.

Abdication doesn't apply only to monarchs. You can as easily abdicate from any other responsibility. Look it up.

There is absolutely nothing to stop Harry from abdicating from the duties of the Royal family and earning a living like anyone else, if he chooses to do so, but he won't, and neither will any other member of it. They are doing very well indeed from playing the game!

Your wondering evidently stopped short of wondering if the queen and T. May haggled over her allowance and the cost of May being 'asked to form a government'. Probably because your newspaper didn't tell you to think about that. Mine didn't either, as it happens, but I remain perfectly capable of thinking up such possibilities from the events rather than relying on any newspaper or media for help. Bit of a coincidence that the boost to the Queen's allowance came so soon after that formation of the new government.

You may also like to wonder whether that is the end of it or whether it will be six million more every year for the next five years too!

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Originally Posted by Excoriator
The queen's contribution to tourism is exaggerated to a ridiculous extent. It might even HELP tourism were she to stand down. Places like Buck House, and Balmoral could be fully opened to wealthy gawping grockles and we'd make a bloody fortune.

I had to laugh at the prince saying he didn't really want to be king the other day. If he'd really wanted to go there would be nothing easier. All he has to do is to abdicate. But of course he won't. It is far too good a racket to walk away from.

One further point. I wonder if anyone here has seen the possibility of this generous six million windfall being related to the queen asking Treeza to form a government? After all, if the PM can make a deal with the crackpot orangemen, then why not a little haggling with the queen too?


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Originally Posted by Excoriator
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The queen's contribution to tourism is exaggerated to a ridiculous extent. It might even HELP tourism were she to stand down. Places like Buck House, and Balmoral could be fully opened to wealthy gawping grockles and we'd make a bloody fortune.

I had to laugh at the prince saying he didn't really want to be king the other day. If he'd really wanted to go there would be nothing easier. All he has to do is to abdicate. But of course he won't. It is far too good a racket to walk away from.

One further point. I wonder if anyone here has seen the possibility of this generous six million windfall being related to the queen asking Treeza to form a government? After all, if the PM can make a deal with the crackpot orangemen, then why not a little haggling with the queen too?


I do wonder sometimes Ex ?!!

Buckingham Palace does open to the public, Balmoral and Estate does open to the public.
Prince Harry was the one who made the comments about the Monarchy, he is not likely to be a King and will therefore never be able to abdicate !

Not sure which newspaper you read, but they don't half get things wrong !


Good that you wonder at least sometimes. Infrequently is better than nothing.

I was well aware of the partial openings at Bucknghm and Balmoral, which is why I was very careful to say FULLY in my post.

Abdication doesn't apply only to monarchs. You can as easily abdicate from any other responsibility. Look it up.

There is absolutely nothing to stop Harry from abdicating from the duties of the Royal family and earning a living like anyone else, if he chooses to do so, but he won't, and neither will any other member of it. They are doing very well indeed from playing the game!

Your wondering evidently stopped short of wondering if the queen and T. May haggled over her allowance and the cost of May being 'asked to form a government'. Probably because your newspaper didn't tell you to think about that. Mine didn't either, as it happens, but I remain perfectly capable of thinking up such possibilities from the events rather than relying on any newspaper or media for help. Bit of a coincidence that the boost to the Queen's allowance came so soon after that formation of the new government.

You may also like to wonder whether that is the end of it or whether it will be six million more every year for the next five years too!


A) Considering that the bill and budget for Buckingham Palace was never going to be given in one lump sum, I suggest that maybe the increase from 12% to 15% of the Crown Estate profits, will continue, until the final figure has been reached. Do you really think that our Queen, gets cash in hand for these jobs ? You are severely lacking in any comprehension of how things work which has been shown from various posts you make. Only when you are challenged do you take issue and then change your mind after reeling off a load of bollocks in most cases !
Have a look at the bold type of your post, and then have a look at the red type from my post. How you twist things to suit your own agenda is quite remarkable !! Had you forgotten that Prince Harry did various trips out to Afghanistan ? was that voluntary work , or did her earn his money ? I have no doubt that which ever way it was, you will find reason to criticise.
You are a very ant-establishment man for some reason, and a character that would wish to destroy the best of Britain's young people if they didn't think just the way you wanted them to. Get rid of the monarchy and you will be 65p per year better off.
Good luck to you and your far left ideas.

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That extra money was agreed to ages ago. There's even a topic on here somewhere.


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I resent every penny of that 65p. I don't want to support this system of organised grovelling on which our constitution is based.

Your newspaper probably tells you how marvellous the queen is and has done so all your life so you believe it. Were you to devote a bit more thought to it, you would realise that amost all other countries have long since ditched the monarchy and are doing rather better than we are as a result.

The laughable Ruritarian nonsense with idiots dressed up in unlikely clothes banging on doors with a stick and all the rest of teh 'opening of parliament' show is largely fake history, designed to keep you in your place.

A little more wondering on your part may well lead you to at least conceive of a more rational system of government.


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Oh what a jealous person you come across as Ex. RICH a dirty word I suspect with you...how dare there be self made millionaires who have worked damm hard to get where they are criminals!! Many countries envy our royal family and traditions and wish they had a history like ours, and whilst the queen has had a privileged life style she has also had to give up her life to duties and unlike us who could make choices and do what we wanted with our future , hers was already mapped out. Don't know how true this is , maybe a joke or fake news but I heard somewhere that Putin would like the heirs to the the royal family murdered to return to Russia to unify the people. As I say could be a joke sure you will tell me....GOD SAVE THE QUEEN..

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Originally Posted by Excoriator
amost all other countries have long since ditched the monarchy and are doing rather better than we are as a result.



Evidence, please.

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Your newspaper probably tells you how marvellous the queen is and has done so all your life so you believe it.


Agh the old chestnut! The papers "I" read are trustworthy and the ones "you" read are all lies.

The only thing I resent about the royals is they have private salmon fishing. grr. Mind you I have got my square foot of Scottish land..

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Originally Posted by Excoriator
I resent every penny of that 65p. I don't want to support this system of organised grovelling on which our constitution is based.


But as explained above it doesn't cost us 65p or anything else, the Royal Family bring much needed money INTO the country.

Originally Posted by Excoriator
The laughable Ruritarian nonsense with idiots dressed up in unlikely clothes banging on doors with a stick and all the rest of teh 'opening of parliament' show is largely fake history, designed to keep you in your place.


I'm sure you have followed many dress codes in your lifetime and I'm sure you expect certain dress codes with other people. In fact what you are saying there is a dress code.

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A little more wondering on your part may well lead you to at least conceive of a more rational system of government.


The days of royalty governing this country went out a long time ago. She is a tourist attraction and a figurehead.

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RICH a dirty word I suspect with you...how dare there be self made millionaires who have worked damm hard to get where they are criminals!!


All millionaires have made their money at the expense of others (its got to come from somewhere), also it is exceedingly rare for a self-made multi-millionaire to not have gone bankrupt at some time, debts which are never paid back at the cost to others.

Most multi-millionaires do not "work hard" to make their money, they may "work hard" but most of it is not productive it is because of their obsession with working hard. They take high risks and use others to make their money. Why isn't their a claw-back scheme post-bankruptcy?

Give me any reason why one person should be paid £1m and another only £10k when one is the producer and the other the pen pusher. Basically the skills to make big money are to be good at paperwork and/or be good at deception and that is why there are a lot of rich criminals around as well as supposed "businessmen", they are of a similar ilk.

Name a "good person" that is a multi-millionaire? The terms are virtually mutually exclusive.

I have no problem with rewarding people for performance, I object to the obscene money some "earn". What is the point of paying someone £10m every year, will their life be any richer/better than someone earning £5m? It will not, but it will make a lot of other people poorer, the money has to come from somewhere.


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