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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40412343

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Is time this age old tradition of keeping royalty was abolished ?

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Not in my lifetime I hope Dilly, although I think you may get your wish one day the way this country's going. Think when the Queen goes you will see a different kind of royalty and ways it is used.Alot of this money is going towards Buckingham Palace which needs updating and maintained... To me The Queen is the one thing I can relate to as being the England I knew and yearn for again. I am a traditionalist and don't want to think of us just having President's and the like. The Royal Family and Buck House is our heritage and we should cherish it in my opinion, I know most won't agree.

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It makes a profit, why get rid?

The tourism industry in the UK is huge and a lot of jobs depend on it, even if only 1% of foreign tourists came because of the Royal Family then that more than pays for the cost. The tourist don't come here because of the weather!


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The Beatles brought a lot of tourism to Liverpool, we never had to pay their bills smile

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Originally Posted by Dilly
The Beatles brought a lot of tourism to Liverpool, we never had to pay their bills smile


We bought their records and went to their concerts and films which is what made them rich so of course we paid their bills.

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Originally Posted by Salmon
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The Beatles brought a lot of tourism to Liverpool, we never had to pay their bills smile


We bought their records and went to their concerts and films which is what made them rich so of course we paid their bills.


.....and the Queen got rich just by being born.

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Originally Posted by palemoon
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The Beatles brought a lot of tourism to Liverpool, we never had to pay their bills smile


We bought their records and went to their concerts and films which is what made them rich so of course we paid their bills.


.....and the Queen got rich just by being born.


Many thousands of other people are born as rich as she was. Don't forget she was born third in line of heir to the throne but it was expected that she would be shoved down the line as time progressed, she eventually chose to take on a role and has had to work ever since. I think she has served us proud, it is very sad to think Prince Charles may take her place, I have zero admiration for him, in fact contempt is probably a good description.


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The queen's contribution to tourism is exaggerated to a ridiculous extent. It might even HELP tourism were she to stand down. Places like Buck House, and Balmoral could be fully opened to wealthy gawping grockles and we'd make a bloody fortune.

I had to laugh at the prince saying he didn't really want to be king the other day. If he'd really wanted to go there would be nothing easier. All he has to do is to abdicate. But of course he won't. It is far too good a racket to walk away from.

One further point. I wonder if anyone here has seen the possibility of this generous six million windfall being related to the queen asking Treeza to form a government? After all, if the PM can make a deal with the crackpot orangemen, then why not a little haggling with the queen too?

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[quote=Excoriator]The queen's contribution to tourism is exaggerated to a ridiculous extent.

This link would tend to contradict that statement.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/373081/uk-royal-tourism-admission-numbers-by-establishment/

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The money is coming from the Crown Estate. The Crown Estate in not out of any of our pockets. The Crown Estate belongs to the country and have increased their profits. The money is going towards the refurbishment and necessary works on Buck'ham Palace. Buck'ham Palace belongs to the country. So, the Crown Estate and Buck'ham Palace do not belong to the Queen, why should she pay out of her own pocket ?
The Crown Estate last year returned £2.3 billion to the Treasury from the profits. In fact we ALL benefit from the Crown Estate. What's the problem ?



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Originally Posted by Excoriator
The queen's contribution to tourism is exaggerated to a ridiculous extent. It might even HELP tourism were she to stand down. Places like Buck House, and Balmoral could be fully opened to wealthy gawping grockles and we'd make a bloody fortune.

I had to laugh at the prince saying he didn't really want to be king the other day. If he'd really wanted to go there would be nothing easier. All he has to do is to abdicate. But of course he won't. It is far too good a racket to walk away from.

One further point. I wonder if anyone here has seen the possibility of this generous six million windfall being related to the queen asking Treeza to form a government? After all, if the PM can make a deal with the crackpot orangemen, then why not a little haggling with the queen too?


I do wonder sometimes Ex ?!!

Buckingham Palace does open to the public, Balmoral and Estate does open to the public.
Prince Harry was the one who made the comments about the Monarchy, he is not likely to be a King and will therefore never be able to abdicate !

Not sure which newspaper you read, but they don't half get things wrong !


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The marching season is upon us from this weekend Ex... "Crackpot orange men" all around..... That you do have right.

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Who thinks a Presidency would cost less than the Monarchy ?

2014:
In this past year, the British Monarchy cost taxpayers £35.7 million. That represents a cost of 56 pence per person in the United Kingdom.

The President of France, whose role is very similar to that of Her Majesty, cost French taxpayers a whopping £91 million.

A little further south and we find the Italian Republic. Its president performs almost exactly the same constitutional function as The Queen, bar a few political powers, yet amazingly costs Italian taxpayers £181.5m per year

Coming in almost identical in cost with the British Monarchy is the Polish presidency, costing Polish taxpayers £34 million per year. Giving extra consideration to the smaller population of Poland and comparing once again to the British Monarchy, costing a fraction more, itís clear where the value for money lies once again.

German presidency, costing Germans at the least £30.8m (this includes £4.8m given annually to the nationís 5 retired presidents).

American presidency reportedly going into billions, itís no surprise this is the model British republicans try to distance themselves from.

The birth of Prince George, a new future heir to the throne, back in 2013 was a cause for great national celebration. It was also a cause for great economic celebration as the birth of the Prince caused an extra £247m to be injected into the economy from everything from royal baby themed merchandise to extra consumption of food and alcohol to celebrate the occasion.


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