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Re: Finsbury Park mosque. [Re: Dilly] #1039960
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Originally Posted by Dilly
No bombs have ever been dropped in my name,nor any shots fired....


That's the trouble, it has been done in our names but not by our choice.


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Originally Posted by Dilly
No bombs have ever been dropped in my name,nor any shots fired. It is the work of world leaders so why do they choose to kill our children in the name of their disgusting religious beliefs? Surely if anyone their targets should be government figures not our innocent kids !!!


It's your country doing it, so it is in your name. You may not want to accept this. Neither do I, but neither of can deny responsibility. It is our government, and they act in your name whether you like it or not, sadly.

They are also very active indeed in assisting our arms manufacturers to supply anyone with the money by organising trade missions and arms deals. That too is in our names, and I like that even less.

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As I do not vote, no government does anything in my name ! I don't vote because as I have always said they all p:ss in the same pot. If the Muslim people want to vent their anger it should be on the government,not children attending a pop concert !

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Originally Posted by Dilly
If the Muslim people want to vent their anger it should be on the government,not children attending a pop concert !


Very true.


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Not voting doesn't absolve you from responsibility I'm afraid.

And in wars, it is the attacker who chooses the target, not the target who chooses the attacker. Most people know this of course.

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Originally Posted by Excoriator
Not voting doesn't absolve you from responsibility I'm afraid.

And in wars, it is the attacker who chooses the target, not the target who chooses the attacker. Most people know this of course.


So terror attacks on any of us in this country is attributed to all Muslims or followers of Islam ? That's a very dangerous point of view.
Arms to Saudi Arabia ? Considering they have made new ties with Israel, and Israel need more military support against the Arab nations, would that be our fault again ?
I take it that means we can blame all Iraqis for their Government forcing our Government through various backdoors of other Governments , and expect to be informed that the ordinary Brit is responsible for a middle eastern war ?


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Re: Finsbury Park mosque. [Re: Beethoven] #1039992
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Just how far OFF TOPIC is this conversation?

Muslim bashing topics can be found left, right, up and below of this thread.

This thread is supposed to be about a Terrorist Attack against the Muslim community?



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Re: Finsbury Park mosque. [Re: Beethoven] #1039993
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Like everything Rude,If you don't like what is said it shouldn't be on here. Sorry but welcome to free speech !

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Well, there's been plenty of Christian bashing (If that's what you want to call it) over the years. So what ?

How long has it taken for Imams to come out of their little holes and make some sort of plausible comments in support of any anti-Semitic ,ant-Christian ,and rebuking violent acts committed by people their own community. How often has it been said their communities should integrate , how many times has a hand of friendship been offered ? No, all on deaf ears, until things started to actually affect them. We've seen it over the last few months. Every attack has brought a little more response into the open and why would that be ? No doubt because they are now becoming frightened. Now they want us all to link arms and support each other. How remarkable ! Trouble is , it's probably come too late for many. Those who committed such acts were living in their communities, the communities that see fit to claim every benefit available, who don't give to charitable causes,(except themselves) and those who arrive and get so many benefits from being here , but can't bring themselves to admit failings or utter the word 'sorry' no , never.
Muslims are not allowed to leave the faith, ever. So it falls fairly and squarely on the shoulders of the Islamic hierarchy, and their communities but suddenly they don't like to admit that. Not one apology from them for atrocities committed by their own members over the years.
Boots on the other foot, and they call for us to be pals and they want new homes immediately , not hotel rooms, they want to remain together in their community, they want answers. We have all wanted answers, particularly where children have been killed !

I was once very supportive of these communities, unfortunately they have changed things for all of us. Life will no longer be as we once had and not too long ago, but hey isn't that what they want ?

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Well said Granny.

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Well said indeed Granny. There are some on here that may live long enough to regret their outpourings of support for the hard done to Muslim faith but by then it will be to late.

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We must be living in the wrong place.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40357280


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Re: Finsbury Park mosque. [Re: Beethoven] #1040020
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Much the same as most other religions in this country then?


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all religions should be banned from this day on,they were all stories to keep people in check in the dark ages.but were not in the dark ages now just get on with your life

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