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It's great that you're always ready to help out with people's query's Bert. Well done...

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Originally Posted by cools
It's great that you're always ready to help out with people's query's Bert. Well done...


Thanks Cools,

The area of ground (grave) in Granny's link looks very much like the area at Landican Cemetery, where they moved the graves from St Mary's cemetery, Birkenhead, when Cammell Laird built the dock in the 50s.
http://stmarysbirkenhead.blogspot.co.uk/

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Just spotted your post Granny , very interesting .

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Cools, and anyone else, that was only part of it. I don't know quite how I didn't see all of it. Many pages to click forward at the bottom.

There is a photo of little Nellie.


http://birkenheadtimes.awardspace.com/nelly_1.htm

One more thing, I went to Landican today and found the graves that were interred from St. Mary's but nothing was seen to denote anything to do with Nellie. It's placed behind the Crematorium and is cut in paths but quite a bit of long grass and a bit unkempt surrounding many of the scattered head stones. Quite a task to be searching on impulse as many of them are also weathered.


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So so sad this. Poor little Nellie if only someone had got to their front door earlier but I guess you can say that about any murder. It's fascinating to read all this in so much detail , I'm sure Bute will be really grateful to you Granny. The pictures as well give a real insight into it. So someone definitely got away with murder, I've always heard the rumour it was a policeman who emigrated, who knows? Thanks for that Granny.

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There's a list of the Inscriptions from the gravestones of St Mary's, which is in the Reference library in Borough Rd.,

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Thanks granny that's really useful I will make appointment visit there when I get down later in the year & it is such a shame the grave is unmarked I will try to find out where it is, just wish i could afford a headstone as it's awful to die that way & not even a marked place of rest. frown

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Sorry no idea of religion bert1 one marriage was church of Scotland which would be protestant but marriage to Peter Carr was done as a civil ceremony. confused

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Well, BUTEMAC hopefully you will turn up what you are searching for, but obviously someone had been thinking about her, so maybe not altogether on her own.......this was 2010.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...rke-11-Rock-Ferry-Birkenhead-10-Jan-1925

An appeal has been made to relatives of a girl murdered 83 years ago - two weeks after flowers were placed where her body was found.


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Originally Posted by BUTEMACS
Sorry no idea of religion bert1 one marriage was church of Scotland which would be protestant but marriage to Peter Carr was done as a civil ceremony. confused


Thanks Bute,

I can't remember where I read it, it mentioned the finding of Nellie's Rosary.

Birkenhead Library have St Mary's burials on film, I'll check if she and other family members are buried there.


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Sorry no idea of religion bert1 one marriage was church of Scotland which would be protestant but marriage to Peter Carr was done as a civil ceremony. confused


Thanks Bute,

I can't remember where I read it, it mentioned the finding of Nellie's Rosary.

Birkenhead Library have St Mary's burials on film, I'll check if she and other family members are buried there.


Hi Bert. Here is the account from the link I posted above.

" On the following Tuesday a Liverpool Solicitor (Robert Quilliam) allowed the police to use his hound dog (Everset Boy) to track down any scent leading away from the scene of the crime. It led officers out of the alleyway up Spenser Avenue to the waste ground opposite 88 Spenser, making a bee-line north-westwards towards some allotments and found a Child's Black Bead Rosary. The hound then dashed towards Rock Lane West crossing the road and made it's way to a Tool Shed in a field behind Highfield Congregational Church, which it inspected twice. The police did not think the Beads or a child's pair of socks found later on the same piece of ground had any connection with the murder. "

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Thanks Granny,

None of the family were at St Mary's, according to the film available at the Library.

I've already checked Flaybrick, all religions and non consecrated ground, not there.

Only other thought,
St Andrews Scottish Presbyterian Church/Graveyard, Conway St, Birkenhead.

Any other thoughts?


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Found her,

Bebington,
Jan 15 Nellie Bell Wood Clark, 16 Byrne Ave, Rock Ferry, Grave 3rd class

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All at Bebington Cemetery,
All, 16 Byrne Ave, Rock Ferry

Elizabeth Bell Carr, July 22, 1921, Public Grave
Annie Sinclair Carr, Oct21, 1922, Public Grave
Sarah Wood Carr, Clark (Line through Clark) Oct 10, 1931, Private Grave, Section H, grave 610
Peter Sinclair Carr, April 30, 1932, in the same grave as Sarah, also Nellie


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Bute,

This is very likely to be James Stevenson Carr, Born 1923 and his sister Violet,

Dover Express, 15 Nov 1946 & Nov 2 1945

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