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1878 Post Office Directory of Cheshire query #1038464
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Most of local Wirral Pub addresses end with Birkenhead

What I'd like to know was if there were 2 pubs named Glegg Arms and if so, where would the Thurstaston one have been.
1878 Glegg's Arms, Joseph Broster, Thurstaston,
1878 Glegg's Arms, George Crabb, Gayton, Great Neston

and
1878 Black Horse, William Powell, Grange, Birkenhead
which I think may have been the one in West Kirby

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Re: 1878 Post Office Directory of Cheshire query [Re: derekdwc] #1038497
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I have never heard of a Pub at Thurstaston named the Glegg Arms. The only one being at the Gayton Roundabout, Heswall.

The Cottage Loaf was the Pub at Thurstaston , don't know how long that has been there and by the same name (I think it still is) but it goes back years and years.

Opposite Corner to The Glegg Arms at Gayton roundabout is The Devon Doorway, another that has been there for years with a thatched roof.

Have you got the one in Barnston Village , The Fox and Hounds ? That goes back a long ,long time a few hundred years to 16th century when a Pub was on the same site.
That is still run on the old ideas (can't think of what it's called) I think the others are all owned or run by companies. You know that feeling when you go into a Pub and it's much the same as the last ?? Boring !

Anyway, you probably didn't want any of that info so I'll say goodnight.

Sorry , forgot the Black Horse, West Kirby. Black Horse Hill, and it's changed it' name now to 'The Viking' or something like that. Silly name !

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Re: 1878 Post Office Directory of Cheshire query [Re: derekdwc] #1038499
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Both West Kirby and Birkenhead had areas called "Grange" which no doubt added to the confusion.

Gayton most certainly wasn't part of Great Neston anywhere around 1878 but I wouldn't exclude there having been a Glegg (or Clegg) Arms in Neston at some time.

I suspect its totally rogue but there is also report of a Joseph Broster at Glegg's Arms, Backford 1794-1803


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Re: 1878 Post Office Directory of Cheshire query [Re: derekdwc] #1038500
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Here you are : Joseph Broster. Tennant farmer at Glegg's. Irby Hall 'could' be classed as Thurstaston, even though the hall is on Irby Road now.

I assume the land went down as far as Thurstason, as there are said to be underground tunnels from the Hall, leading to the river Dee at Thurstaston.
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"My great great grandfather was John Broster, born 1830 died 1919. He was born in Thingwall of John Broster (born 1802) and Jane Ellis of Woodbank. From 1842-1851 he lived at Irby Hall where his father was a tenant farmer of the Gleggs. In 1853 he took the tenancy of Elms Farm, Pensby and in 1871 they were at Bridges House Farm opposite the top of Boat House Lane, moving to Wallasey Lodge Farm in the late 1870's through to late 1910-5.

I have an extensive Broster family tree dating back to 1713 in West Kirby. There are many Thomas's but I cannot instantly spot one in 1744." UNQUOTE

http://oldwirral.activeboard.com/t44082400/the-farming-brosters/

(The uncanny thing about that is, 'Woodbank' is a neighbour of mine. How spooky. Always knew that house was haunted !)

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Re: 1878 Post Office Directory of Cheshire query [Re: derekdwc] #1038501
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Here; George Crabb and Glegg had a lot of connection ! I haven't gone through all of this, but I'm sure it will enjoy

http://maps.cheshire.gov.uk/tithema...amp;letter=C&word=Crabb&random=6


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Set in the beautiful surroundings of a Country Park the Cottage Loaf was built in the 1920's to a traditional style


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Re: 1878 Post Office Directory of Cheshire query [Re: granny] #1038504
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Joseph Broster, born Irby, 1835,

The 1881 census was enumerated as follows,
Thurstaston, Cheshire.

Old Hall, Thurstaston,
Public House, Joseph Broster
Rectory

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side...-3.1321&layers=171&right=BingHyb

1874 Directory

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1883, Liverpool Mercury

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1874 directory, still there in 1881,William Powell, Black Horse.


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Re: 1878 Post Office Directory of Cheshire query [Re: derekdwc] #1038549
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Here is clarity of location.

Page 22. Glegg Arms ( Dawpool ,Thurstaston )

https://www.heswallmagazine.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Decmber-2016.pdf

This might also be of interest Derek.

http://www.irbyclub.co.uk/history-of-the-club.html

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Re: 1878 Post Office Directory of Cheshire query [Re: derekdwc] #1038557
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Thanks granny, some fine researching.
So it looks like there were 2 Glegg Arms then

from page 22

his original route is still marked on the A to Z maps, but is private. Unfortunately, the village Pub, the Glegg Arms, which stood on the old road, was pulled down in 1884, forcing landlord Joe Broster to move to another Pub, the Chestnut Horse (later renamed the Black Horse on Black Horse Hill, West Kirby)

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my gt grandfather joseph broster kept the glegg arms at thurstaston he was the enumerator for the census of1881 I have photo of him dressed as a publican in the appropriate white apron of the day


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