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Re: Activists Take Over Another Grade 1 Listed Bank [Re: diggingdeeper] #1035077
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They think they're entitled to something they haven't earned, money, housing, wealth, fame. "The people on the goggle box have got it why shouldn't I?" Self entitlement is the curse of this generation.

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Re: Activists Take Over Another Grade 1 Listed Bank [Re: Beethoven] #1035156
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I wonder how many of the people replying on here have had anything to do with the homeless, or actually spoken to any of the activists in Hamilton Square?

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Judging Others

1“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

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Originally Posted by jeffrey
I wonder how many of the people replying on here have had anything to do with the homeless, or actually spoken to any of the activists in Hamilton Square?

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Judging Others

1“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.


Please don't preach your beliefs, they mean absolutely nothing to me. I believe in what I see and hear !

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And oh yes while on the subject of preaching! I see another priest has been banged up for kiddy fiddling. Good old religion strikes again .

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Jeffrey....please return to planet CUCKOO immediately.

Re: Activists Take Over Another Grade 1 Listed Bank [Re: diggingdeeper] #1035172
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Surely the activists are judging society, so as the scriptures say, let them be judged back.


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We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn
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I've just thought who Jeffrey's photo looks like, David Icke, that explains it then.

Re: Activists Take Over Another Grade 1 Listed Bank [Re: diggingdeeper] #1035177
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Jeffrey has said nothing wrong. His beliefs on how some judge others .

I like this quote by Richard Carlson.


“Something wonderful begins to happen with the simple realization that life, like an automobile, is driven from the inside out, not the other way around. As you focus more on becoming more peaceful with where you are, rather than focusing on where you would rather be, you begin to find peace right now, in the present. Then, as you move around, try new things, and meet new people, you carry that sense of inner peace with you. It's absolutely true that, "Wherever you go, there you are.”


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No. Nothing...your right granny.

Nor have I ....CUCKOO!!

Re: Activists Take Over Another Grade 1 Listed Bank [Re: jeffrey] #1035210
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Originally Posted by jeffrey
I wonder how many of the people replying on here have had anything to do with the homeless, or actually spoken to any of the activists in Hamilton Square?


Any opposition is not so much to do with the homeless or love activists but the breaking of the law to achieve ones aims.

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Michelle Langan, who runs the Papercup project and campaigns for Liverpool's homeless has stated that she believes about 80% of Liverpool's rough sleepers are using spice.

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Re: Activists Take Over Another Grade 1 Listed Bank [Re: diggingdeeper] #1035227
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Isnt the problem that the centres wont take the street sleepers in if theyre high on drugs /alcohol? They still need somewhere safe to sleep though.

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Biggest need for homeless people is support for their mental health or addiction problems. Council are not obliged to house everybody destitute only certain people.ie. families and over 65's.The government are obliged to pay housing benefit to everybody destitute there is a difference. The number of mental health support workers has been halved on Wirral in the past two years and this is the area that needs addressing. The night shelter throws people out early in the morning hence the number of people hanging around the streets.

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Rosie, the night shelters, although they help in one way, to my mind are something that doesn't work too well. As you say, they wander around the street from about 9am to 4pm.

I remember a number of years ago, one chap looking for somewhere to stay. He was from Birmingham, about 45yrs of age, very clean, nice guy clean shaven, in decent clothing. He'd hit hard times and been sleeping under the stars for 3 nights (not sure if that was here or somewhere else). Anyway, he ended up in the night shelter at some point, and I have never , in all my life, seen anyone go downhill so rapidly as that poor chap did. I reckon he'd got caught up with the bad guys and he looked absolutely wretched after a couple of months. The night shelter didn't do him any good at all. Very sad. I still sometimes wonder what eventually happened to him.


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Originally Posted by rossie
Biggest need for homeless people is support for their mental health or addiction problems. Council are not obliged to house everybody destitute only certain people.ie. families and over 65's.The government are obliged to pay housing benefit to everybody destitute there is a difference. The number of mental health support workers has been halved on Wirral in the past two years and this is the area that needs addressing. The night shelter throws people out early in the morning hence the number of people hanging around the streets.


The council is under a legal obligation to provide emergency accommodation to ANY British Citizen (and some other nationalities) who are destitute until such time as they are either no longer destitute or they have a viable offer of longer term accommodation.

The council can name as many categories as they like but that does not remove their legal obligation.


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We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn
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