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Martin Mcguinness dies #1033013 21st Mar 2017 9:29am 21st Mar 2017 9:29am
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 8,865 wallasey Dilly OP Wiki Veteran
Dilly OP Wiki Veteran Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 8,865 wallasey	Well I for one will not weep at this news. Last edited by Dilly; 21st Mar 2017 9:29am.

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Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly] #1033016 21st Mar 2017 10:02am 21st Mar 2017 10:02am
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,965 Heswallish F fish5133 Forum Guardian
fish5133 Forum Guardian F Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,965 Heswallish	Bit of an awkward one to know how to feel. Large proportion of his life killing for a cause the other half perhaps trying to make some recompense. The reactions of victims families is not surprising and he will get the blame for being IRA commander etc but our Govt are equally guilty of killing innocent people in middle east and elsewhere. We praise the French Resistance for their efforts against the Nazis. One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist. Would like to believe he is facing divine justice.

Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly] #1033018 21st Mar 2017 10:22am 21st Mar 2017 10:22am
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 8,865 wallasey Dilly OP Wiki Veteran
Dilly OP Wiki Veteran Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 8,865 wallasey	Two innocent boys in Warrington! How can that ever be justified? A cowardly attack as most of them were.

Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly] #1033019 21st Mar 2017 10:26am 21st Mar 2017 10:26am
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Gibbo Forum Addict Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,138 Oxton	BBC are treating him like royalty with their coverage this morning.

Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly] #1033020 21st Mar 2017 10:34am 21st Mar 2017 10:34am
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 8,865 wallasey Dilly OP Wiki Veteran
Dilly OP Wiki Veteran Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 8,865 wallasey	Plain and simple fact he was he was a murderer and should be remembered as such instead of all the hype of him becoming a peace keeper.

Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly] #1033021 21st Mar 2017 10:35am 21st Mar 2017 10:35am
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 16,596 Wirral granny Wiki Master
granny Wiki Master Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 16,596 Wirral	He was killing his own people ! He will be remembered for that, and it will be his legacy. None of this 'bad turned good' rubbish. And to think our Queen had to shake his hand . Ugh ! Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle

Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Gibbo] #1033022 21st Mar 2017 10:39am 21st Mar 2017 10:39am
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 16,596 Wirral granny Wiki Master
granny Wiki Master Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 16,596 Wirral	Originally Posted by Gibbo BBC are treating him like royalty with their coverage this morning. BBC will, because its another news story to make a whole day of news from. They'll have him as a 'Saint' by the end of the day. Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle

Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly] #1033074 21st Mar 2017 7:18pm 21st Mar 2017 7:18pm
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Salmon Forum Addict S Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,885 Wallasey	Pretty much the same as Mandela, started off as a freedom fighter/terrorist/murderer and developed into an accepted respectable member of society.You have to remember the origins of both disputes.Oppression by a ruling/governing body.

Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly] #1033078 21st Mar 2017 7:32pm 21st Mar 2017 7:32pm
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,610 Birkenhead J jimbob Forum Addict
jimbob Forum Addict J Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,610 Birkenhead	there is No comparison between him and Nelson Mandela. Ships that pass in the night, seldom seen and soon forgoten

Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: jimbob] #1033110 21st Mar 2017 9:17pm 21st Mar 2017 9:17pm
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,965 Heswallish F fish5133 Forum Guardian
fish5133 Forum Guardian F Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,965 Heswallish	Originally Posted by jimbob there is No comparison between him and Nelson Mandela. Maybe not in terms of statesmenship and what they achieved but mandela had a murky past

Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly] #1033116 21st Mar 2017 10:22pm 21st Mar 2017 10:22pm
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,385 happy place eddtheduck Forum Addict
eddtheduck Forum Addict Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,385 happy place	Originally Posted by Dilly Well I for one will not weep at this news. careful Dilly you'll have the "he was someones son" gang on your back Not on here no more

Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly] #1033119 21st Mar 2017 11:05pm 21st Mar 2017 11:05pm
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lollipop Unregistered L	Ive just come away from our tea break table here on my night shift. Its not so divided, there is lots of praise for Mr McGuinness. Out of a shift if 12, not 1 mentioned any terror attack he might have been involved in. Over 20 years I've lived here and I've worked here over 10. Tonight I had very little to say for a change. I kept my exact thoughts if the man, to myself.

Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: eddtheduck] #1033120 21st Mar 2017 11:22pm 21st Mar 2017 11:22pm
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 8,865 wallasey Dilly OP Wiki Veteran
Dilly OP Wiki Veteran Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 8,865 wallasey	Originally Posted by eddtheduck Originally Posted by Dilly Well I for one will not weep at this news. careful Dilly you'll have the "he was someones son" gang on your back Their absence surprises me.

Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly] #1033121 21st Mar 2017 11:33pm 21st Mar 2017 11:33pm
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 12,858 Birkenhead diggingdeeper Wiki Master
diggingdeeper Wiki Master Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 12,858 Birkenhead	He was a criminal who avoided prosecution by becoming a politician. In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn

Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly] #1033137 22nd Mar 2017 7:30am 22nd Mar 2017 7:30am
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 428 WALLASEY S saltytom Smartchild
saltytom Smartchild S Joined: May 2011 Posts: 428 WALLASEY	I think Norman Tebbits quote did it for me "I hope he will be parked in an unpleasant corner of hell".