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#1033013 - 21st Mar 2017 9:29am Martin Mcguinness dies
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Well I for one will not weep at this News.


Edited by Dilly (21st Mar 2017 9:29am)

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#1033016 - 21st Mar 2017 10:02am Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly]
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Bit of an awkward one to know how to feel. Large proportion of his life killing for a cause the other half perhaps trying to make some recompense.
The reactions of victims families is not surprising and he will get the blame for being IRA commander etc but our Govt are equally guilty of killing innocent people in middle east and elsewhere. We praise the French Resistance for their efforts against the Nazis. One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist. Would like to believe he is facing divine justice.

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#1033018 - 21st Mar 2017 10:22am Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly]
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Two innocent boys in Warrington! How can that ever be justified? A cowardly attack as most of them were.

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#1033019 - 21st Mar 2017 10:26am Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly]
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BBC are treating him like royalty with their coverage this morning.

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#1033020 - 21st Mar 2017 10:34am Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly]
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Plain and simple fact he was he was a murderer and should be remembered as such instead of all the hype of him becoming a peace keeper.

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#1033021 - 21st Mar 2017 10:35am Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly]
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He was killing his own people ! He will be remembered for that, and it will be his legacy. None of this 'bad turned good' rubbish. And to think our Queen had to shake his hand . Ugh !
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#1033022 - 21st Mar 2017 10:39am Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Gibbo]
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BBC are treating him like royalty with their coverage this morning.


BBC will, because its another News story to make a whole day of News from. They'll have him as a 'Saint' by the end of the day.
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#1033074 - 21st Mar 2017 7:18pm Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly]
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Pretty much the same as Mandela, started off as a freedom fighter/terrorist/murderer and developed into an accepted respectable member of society.You have to remember the origins of both disputes.Oppression by a ruling/governing body.

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#1033078 - 21st Mar 2017 7:32pm Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly]
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there is No comparison between him and Nelson Mandela.
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#1033110 - 21st Mar 2017 9:17pm Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: jimbob]
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Originally Posted By: jimbob
there is No comparison between him and Nelson Mandela.


Maybe not in terms of statesmenship and what they achieved but mandela had a murky past

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#1033116 - 21st Mar 2017 10:22pm Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly]
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Originally Posted By: Dilly
Well I for one will not weep at this news.
careful Dilly you'll have the "he was someones son" gang on your back
handbag wink
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#1033119 - 21st Mar 2017 11:05pm Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly]
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Ive just come away from our tea break table here on my night shift.

Its not so divided, there is lots of praise for Mr McGuinness. Out of a shift if 12, not 1 mentioned any terror attack he might have been involved in. Over 20 years I've lived here and I've worked here over 10. Tonight I had very little to say for a change. I kept my exact thoughts if the man, to myself.

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#1033120 - 21st Mar 2017 11:22pm Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: eddtheduck]
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Originally Posted By: Dilly
Well I for one will not weep at this news.
careful Dilly you'll have the "he was someones son" gang on your back
handbag wink



Their absence surprises me.

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#1033121 - 21st Mar 2017 11:33pm Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly]
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He was a criminal who avoided prosecution by becoming a politician.
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#1033137 - 22nd Mar 2017 7:30am Re: Martin Mcguinness dies [Re: Dilly]
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I think Norman Tebbits quote did it for me "I hope he will be parked in an unpleasant corner of hell".

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