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#1031644 - 1st Mar 2017 3:20pm No Trains from Liverpool Limestreet.
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Wall collapsed. No trains for several days.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-39124787
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#1031658 - 1st Mar 2017 5:13pm Re: No Trains from Liverpool Limestreet. [Re: granny]
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OUCH. I wonder if whoever overloaded the area by the wall with heavy containers will be prosecuted? I know the wall's been there a long time, and the very wet weather aggravated the situation, but putting so much heavy stuff so close to the edge is asking for trouble, I'd think.

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#1031663 - 1st Mar 2017 6:23pm Re: No Trains from Liverpool Limestreet. [Re: granny]
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It stands to reason that the heavy load was more probable than not to be to blame. Somebody is going to be getting a hefty bill from merseytravel anyway

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#1031666 - 1st Mar 2017 6:51pm Re: No Trains from Liverpool Limestreet. [Re: granny]
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Wall had a palisade fence on it quite possible storm doris blowing on the railings have weakened the wall. The angle the containers are at could have funnelled the wind.
Looks like a bit of illegal fridge dumping as well. Thankfully no train involved.
Think its a wall built up off the natural sandstone bedrock. Major operation at least one or two rails out of commission for weeks imo. Edge Hill and Liverpool Parkway will be busy

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#1031678 - 1st Mar 2017 8:48pm Re: No Trains from Liverpool Limestreet. [Re: fish5133]
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Mention on News this evening that they have found tunnels underneath. That man Williamson again ??? or the Mersey link shocked
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#1031702 - 1st Mar 2017 11:01pm Re: No Trains from Liverpool Limestreet. [Re: granny]
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#1031703 - 1st Mar 2017 11:04pm Re: No Trains from Liverpool Limestreet. [Re: granny]
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boohoo Travelling to London on Saturday- via replacement bus to Runcorn first. Fun!

Thankful that nobody was killed or injured though.


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#1031719 - 2nd Mar 2017 10:12am Re: No Trains from Liverpool Limestreet. [Re: granny]
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Couple of map links. Just look at the crap on the streets there:

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And a Bing birds eye view:

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#1031721 - 2nd Mar 2017 11:06am Re: No Trains from Liverpool Limestreet. [Re: Gibbo]
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Couple of map links. Just look at the crap on the streets there:

Google Streetview

And a Bing birds eye view:

https://binged.it/2lgiAHD


Hope your not referring to the Police Station on the other side of the collapse.

Looks like fly tippers paradise.

Structural Engineers and Rail bosses will be having a few talks to decide best course of action. Rest of the wall will need to be checked, do they look at a whole new design of wall while line shut, temporary support protection to allow 2 lines to remain. Time, money safety...love to be a fly on the wall.

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#1031730 - 2nd Mar 2017 1:29pm Re: No Trains from Liverpool Limestreet. [Re: granny]
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It does highly the vulnerability of the line though - one single route into the city.

I'm surprised there's no contingency emergency plan to use South Parkway as an alternative.

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#1031754 - 2nd Mar 2017 6:20pm Re: No Trains from Liverpool Limestreet. [Re: Gibbo]
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It does highly the vulnerability of the line though - one single route into the city.

I'm surprised there's no contingency emergency plan to use South Parkway as an alternative.


Any room at Edge Hill?

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#1031763 - 2nd Mar 2017 6:36pm Re: No Trains from Liverpool Limestreet. [Re: Greenwood]
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OUCH. I wonder if whoever overloaded the area by the wall with heavy containers will be prosecuted? I know the wall's been there a long time, and the very wet weather aggravated the situation, but putting so much heavy stuff so close to the edge is asking for trouble, I'd think.


The weight of the dense soil (especially when wet) behind the wall is enormously greater than a few containers (mostly air) and few bits of concrete.
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#1031793 - 3rd Mar 2017 10:06am Re: No Trains from Liverpool Limestreet. [Re: Wally1]
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Any room at Edge Hill?


Good point - yes. Loads of tracks and space for platforms

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#1031801 - 3rd Mar 2017 2:41pm Re: No Trains from Liverpool Limestreet. [Re: Gibbo]
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Any room at Edge Hill?


Good point - yes. Loads of tracks and space for platforms


I hear they are using it now for some Northern Trains.

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#1032040 - 8th Mar 2017 1:16am Re: No Trains from Liverpool Limestreet. [Re: granny]
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