WikiWirral Online with you since 2003, fantastic.
Forum Statistics
Posts1,011,536
Topics74,713
Members12,818
Forums66
Posts in last 24hrs33
Most Online7,831
Apr 8th, 2013
Who's Online Now
53 registered members (11 invisible), 1,058 guests, and331 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


Popular Topics(Views 7days)
191 Phones
New General Forums
Looking for Gamers and New Members
by WargamerNik. 11th Dec 2018 10:21am
This Day in 2001
by granny. 29th Nov 2018 11:56am
HAPPY BIRTHDAY LOCOMOTIVE
by snowhite. 24th Nov 2018 2:36pm
Lost my identity
by dingle. 23rd Nov 2018 9:18pm
New Wirral History
Carr House, Moreton
by granny. 11th Dec 2018 10:42pm
Bromborough - Marfords Estate
by billy_anorak59. 10th Dec 2018 12:35pm
762 Whitt's End Wine & Cocktail Bar 43 Market Stre
by derekdwc. 29th Nov 2018 11:15pm
758 Withens Lane Sports & Social Club
by derekdwc. 29th Nov 2018 11:11pm
760 'D' COMPANY, 21st BATTALION CHESHIRE HOME GUAR
by derekdwc. 29th Nov 2018 11:06pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
WW1 Monument, Birkenhead
No more bridge, never be the same
Topic Replies
Carr House, Moreton
by diggingdeeper. 12th Dec 2018 1:13am
Phones
by venice. 11th Dec 2018 9:54pm
Fibre Broadband
by cools. 11th Dec 2018 6:29pm
Bromborough - Marfords Estate
by billy_anorak59. 11th Dec 2018 1:16pm
Birkenhead riots
by dingle. 11th Dec 2018 11:17am
Looking for Gamers and New Members
by WargamerNik. 11th Dec 2018 10:32am
Panasonic HC VX870 4K camcorder
by gerrymoore. 11th Dec 2018 8:36am
Ipad Mini 4 128gb
by Catsick. 10th Dec 2018 8:07pm
Black Leather massage recliner chair
by alicia1. 10th Dec 2018 9:38am
December
M T W T F S S
1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Christmas
by granny. 5th Dec 2018 11:45am
Shen Yun at Empire Theatre
by granny. 19th Nov 2018 11:47am
Previous Topic
Next Topic
Print Topic
Rate Topic
Paying for EU Citizenship (Poll) #1026402
26th Nov 2016 12:35pm
26th Nov 2016 12:35pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,163
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline OP

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline OP

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,163
Birkenhead
When we brexit there may be an option for individuals to pay for EU Citizenship.

Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...k-live-fee-guy-verhofstadt-a7440556.html

Would you "buy" EU Citizenship? Assuming the cost will be around passport price, it could be expensive for families.



EU Citizenship
single choice
Votes accepted starting: 26th Nov 2016 12:35pm
You must vote before you can view the results of this poll.

In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn
Google Ads
Re: Paying for EU Citizenship (Poll) [Re: diggingdeeper] #1026585
30th Nov 2016 5:15pm
30th Nov 2016 5:15pm
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,819
Heswallish
F
fish5133 Online content
Forum Guardian
fish5133  Online Content
Forum Guardian
F
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,819
Heswallish
Not a very good poll considering no one knows what the benefits or drawbacks would be. Lot of people might just go for it if it meant it made it easier passing passport control going on holiday.
Newspaper article bit misleading "Mr Goerens said: ďBetween 15 and 30 million British citizens deeply regret Brexit". Sounds like figures plucked out the air and is he trying to imply they are people who voted for Brexit.

Basically you would be paying £10 for a work visa.

Re: Paying for EU Citizenship (Poll) [Re: diggingdeeper] #1026669
2nd Dec 2016 1:05pm
2nd Dec 2016 1:05pm
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,589
wirral
E
Excoriator Offline
Forum Addict
Excoriator  Offline
Forum Addict
E
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,589
wirral
I think I'd rather be an EU Citizen than a British Subject. Note the words 'Citizen' and 'Subject'.

Dual citizenship might also give you some protection against the UK government and the nuttier laws it attempts to inflict on us from time to time. I suspect an EU passport would be cheaper than a UK one too. And if the UK collapses economically, which seems quite likely the way things are going, it would be easier to jump ship and go live in Europe somewhere.

Finally, it would probably allow one to transfer some money into a Euro account in France or Germany if the UK Bankers give us a repeat performance of what they did in 2008. This too is distinctly possible, and will probably be even worse next time.

Re: Paying for EU Citizenship (Poll) [Re: diggingdeeper] #1026672
2nd Dec 2016 2:20pm
2nd Dec 2016 2:20pm
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,819
Heswallish
F
fish5133 Online content
Forum Guardian
fish5133  Online Content
Forum Guardian
F
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,819
Heswallish
Quote
I think I'd rather be an EU Citizen than a British Subject. Note the words 'Citizen' and 'Subject'.


Depends what you are subject to. You can be freer as a "subject" than a "citizen" As a "citizen" of the EU you are "subject" to EU laws from people you have no control over.
At least as a British subject I can have some control (even though it may be illusionary) over who is in power

Re: Paying for EU Citizenship (Poll) [Re: diggingdeeper] #1026678
2nd Dec 2016 4:46pm
2nd Dec 2016 4:46pm
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,589
wirral
E
Excoriator Offline
Forum Addict
Excoriator  Offline
Forum Addict
E
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,589
wirral
"...At least as a British subject I can have some control (even though it may be illusionary) over who is in power..."

Really?

You are indeed deluded as you suspect. You have no control over the civil service in the UK, who are every bit as much 'faceless unelected bureaucrats' as those in the EU. And are you seriously claiming that our MPs are honest and trustworthy with a series of scandals about expense fiddling and votes for cash stings.

Do you know that lobbyists in the UK parliament now have to be 'accredited'? In other words journalists who set up these sting operations are now filtered out so that MPs and 'lords' can continue unworried by any risk of their doings being exposed.

You can vote for an MEP as you can for an MP. What's the difference?

Take back control indeed! What a laugh!

Re: Paying for EU Citizenship (Poll) [Re: Excoriator] #1026707
2nd Dec 2016 7:59pm
2nd Dec 2016 7:59pm
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 15,864
Wirral
granny Offline
Wiki Master
granny  Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 15,864
Wirral
Originally Posted by Excoriator
I think I'd rather be an EU Citizen than a British Subject. Note the words 'Citizen' and 'Subject'.

Dual citizenship might also give you some protection against the UK government and the nuttier laws it attempts to inflict on us from time to time. I suspect an EU passport would be cheaper than a UK one too. And if the UK collapses economically, which seems quite likely the way things are going, it would be easier to jump ship and go live in Europe somewhere.

Finally, it would probably allow one to transfer some money into a Euro account in France or Germany if the UK Bankers give us a repeat performance of what they did in 2008. This too is distinctly possible, and will probably be even worse next time.


With that little option in mind, let's wait and see what happens after Sunday. The markets are pretty worried and a NO could lead to a virtual collapse of the Euro Zone.


Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Re: Paying for EU Citizenship (Poll) [Re: diggingdeeper] #1026708
2nd Dec 2016 8:43pm
2nd Dec 2016 8:43pm
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 452
birkenhead
dustymclean Offline
Smartchild
dustymclean  Offline
Smartchild
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 452
birkenhead
The Germans took a soft hit on the downturn by getting rid of their "Guest" workers.In the event of any kind of visa you would never reach the same status as a resent migrant.I would rather be a first class Brit than a second class European temp.

Re: Paying for EU Citizenship (Poll) [Re: Excoriator] #1026715
2nd Dec 2016 10:19pm
2nd Dec 2016 10:19pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,163
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline OP

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline OP

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,163
Birkenhead
Originally Posted by Excoriator
You can vote for an MEP as you can for an MP. What's the difference?


An MEP has very little control over what the EU does.

The UK has more UKIP MEPs than any other party, does it make any difference? No!


In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn

Moderated by  Mod 

Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Carr House, Moreton
by granny. 11th Dec 2018 10:42pm
Looking for Gamers and New Members
by WargamerNik. 11th Dec 2018 10:21am
Bromborough - Marfords Estate
by billy_anorak59. 10th Dec 2018 12:35pm
Phones
by venice. 9th Dec 2018 11:39pm
Lost Jack Russell
by venice. 7th Dec 2018 3:07pm
For Sale & Free
Panasonic HC VX870 4K camcorder
by gerrymoore. 11th Dec 2018 8:36am
Sea fishing shelter
by paul110180. 9th Dec 2018 10:13am
Pool table etc 25x 55" approx
by Snodvan. 7th Dec 2018 7:13pm
Hotpoint slimline dishwasher free
by silvertigra. 6th Dec 2018 12:33pm
Black Leather massage recliner chair
by alicia1. 4th Dec 2018 1:40pm
Member Spotlight
TheComputerLab
TheComputerLab
Wallasey
Posts: 1,270
Joined: May 2011
Show All Member Profiles 
Newest Members
Paowie1, LairdArrowe, SEdwards, Bill1, Binny
12818 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
Christmas
by granny. 4th Dec 2018 3:24pm
Bollards
by fish5133. 2nd Dec 2018 11:10pm
Contacting an old school friend?
by gerrymoore. 1st Dec 2018 11:29am
What? Did I really hear this??
by venice. 28th Nov 2018 11:03pm
hairdresser
by lincle. 27th Nov 2018 6:51pm
News : New Topics
Mobile phone probs
by cools. 6th Dec 2018 5:58pm
Border, no Border. Deal, no Deal
by granny. 5th Dec 2018 11:57am
Submarine Assoc Diary lost
by BandyCoot. 3rd Dec 2018 4:35pm
Monks Ferry Slipway - Closed
by Jeremy. 3rd Dec 2018 12:46pm
Doorstep Hawkers
by granny. 1st Dec 2018 5:15pm
New Enthusiast Forums
Phones
by venice. 9th Dec 2018 11:39pm
Lost Jack Russell
by venice. 7th Dec 2018 3:07pm
Budgie Found
by flybynight. 1st Dec 2018 4:33pm
CAT
by lincle. 29th Nov 2018 11:00pm
Sky TV
by Peter0787. 29th Nov 2018 9:21pm
Popular Topics(Views 24hrs)
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Wed 8:19am
Sunset Wed 3:52pm
Local Time Wed 1:31am
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1