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Re: An interesting picture [Re: chriskay] #1016656
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You can even read the advertisements on it. Walkers Imperial Stout is clear and to the right of the 3 graces on the overhead, Walkers Scotch SELA Whiskey
Here is another one of Georges Dock shaft from July 1934
http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw045195

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Re: An interesting picture [Re: chriskay] #1016692
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Don't you think that £15 to look at the pictures on the History site is a bit much, with 12000 members £5 per member would probably be better and achieve more money. Rather than a few people paying £15.

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"Outline plan for the County Borough of Birkenhead". This was commissioned by the Council and published in 1947

I have the book. Very interesting it is

Snod


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Re: An interesting picture [Re: locomotive] #1016724
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Originally Posted by locomotive
Don't you think that £15 to look at the pictures on the History site is a bit much, with 12000 members £5 per member would probably be better and achieve more money. Rather than a few people paying £15.


Well, there may be 12,000 people who have signed up over the years but I doubt there are more than a couple of hundred active members now. Don't forget, it's not just the History section, pictures on other sections of the site will also be restricted.


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Re: An interesting picture [Re: Snodvan] #1016725
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Originally Posted by Snodvan
"Outline plan for the County Borough of Birkenhead". This was commissioned by the Council and published in 1947

I have the book. Very interesting it is

Snod


Yes, I too have a mint copy, still in its slip case. I'm proposing to post a few excerpts from it, probably tomorrow in a new thread.


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Originally Posted by chriskay
Originally Posted by Snodvan
"Outline plan for the County Borough of Birkenhead". This was commissioned by the Council and published in 1947

I have the book. Very interesting it is

Snod


Yes, I too have a mint copy, still in its slip case. I'm proposing to post a few excerpts from it, probably tomorrow in a new thread.


Please do Chris
I look forward to it wink

Re: An interesting picture [Re: locomotive] #1016737
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Originally Posted by locomotive
Don't you think that £15 to look at the pictures on the History site is a bit much, with 12000 members £5 per member would probably be better and achieve more money. Rather than a few people paying £15.


Funny that the History section were I came to in the first place to help I have to pay to see images, but the for Sale section where people are making money from Wiki I can see & post pictures to, somethings a bit skewiff on Wiki if you ask me smack

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Originally Posted by OxtonHill
Originally Posted by locomotive
Don't you think that £15 to look at the pictures on the History site is a bit much, with 12000 members £5 per member would probably be better and achieve more money. Rather than a few people paying £15.


Funny that the History section were I came to in the first place to help I have to pay to see images, but the for Sale section where people are making money from Wiki I can see & post pictures to, somethings a bit skewiff on Wiki if you ask me smack


It is a shame frown
The threads do open up with the pictures and story combined
After much deliberation, I paid the £15
The bonus is, we are not bombarded with dodgy adverts to pay for the site

I suppose, the site has go so big now, the cost will rise to host it

Re: An interesting picture [Re: chriskay] #1016777
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Originally Posted by chriskay

Another question arises from the picture; why the big loop from the entrance, via Sidney St., to the Woodside shaft?

I'm guessing that if it didn't, it would pile straight into the railway tunnel at Hamilton Square (which looks to be on a straight line from the Road Tunnel entrance) plus, a winding curve would allow a more gentle gradient to get over the railway and then below the river bed? Just my thoughts.


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They had a lot of problems with the acquisition of property
There was going to be one entrance in the garden of the Woodside hotel but was substituted for the 2 entrances at Chester st and Rendel st and it states that they had many problems obtaining property
Maybe the Sidney st ventilation shaft dictated that course for the tunnel

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Originally Posted by billy_anorak59
Originally Posted by chriskay

Another question arises from the picture; why the big loop from the entrance, via Sidney St., to the Woodside shaft?

I'm guessing that if it didn't, it would pile straight into the railway tunnel at Hamilton Square (which looks to be on a straight line from the Road Tunnel entrance) plus, a winding curve would allow a more gentle gradient to get over the railway and then below the river bed? Just my thoughts.


That makes sense: even if they had avoided the rail tunnel, the distance from the entrance to the river would probably be too steep in a straight line.


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Originally Posted by chriskay
Originally Posted by billy_anorak59
Originally Posted by chriskay

Another question arises from the picture; why the big loop from the entrance, via Sidney St., to the Woodside shaft?

I'm guessing that if it didn't, it would pile straight into the railway tunnel at Hamilton Square (which looks to be on a straight line from the Road Tunnel entrance) plus, a winding curve would allow a more gentle gradient to get over the railway and then below the river bed? Just my thoughts.


That makes sense: even if they had avoided the rail tunnel, the distance from the entrance to the river would probably be too steep in a straight line.


Not really, as I stated above they was going to just have 1 entrance at the Woodside hotel with no mention of how steep the gradient would be (from that book you recommended Chris) wink

Re: An interesting picture [Re: mikeeb] #1016783
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Originally Posted by mikeeb
They had a lot of problems with the acquisition of property
There was going to be one entrance in the garden of the Woodside hotel but was substituted for the 2 entrances at Chester st and Rendel st and it states that they had many problems obtaining property
Maybe the Sidney st ventilation shaft dictated that course for the tunnel


Yes - as per the red route on the map, but still spiralling to get a decent gradient:

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Aah, I see and stand corrected wink

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