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Commons debate - Kingsway tunnel approach road #1016331
6th Aug 2016 3:00pm
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Just found this debate in 1977 regarding the tunnel approach road
Some of it seems sensationalized but I may be wrong
If I am wrong the houses should have been knocked down and the residents compensated

Please forgive me for finding the comments amusing, or being ignorant of what living there must have been like if it was not exaggerated

A few snippets of the conversation
"The Minister has only to go and stand inside one of these houses, with all windows and doors closed, in the kitchen where one is supposed to be preparing food, to appreciate what I mean about the stench of exhaust fumes that comes into the homes. We have disruption of normal life and dirt that entails additional household costs. Plants do not grow in the gardens any more, as they used to do. Bedrooms have had to be moved to the front of the houses in order to enable people to get some sleep, and more and more of these residents have from time to time had to be prescribed pills and
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tranquillisers in order to give them some sleep. Still nothing can be done because the Merseyside County Council says that it cannot move at present"

"I hope that the Minister will be able to help in this special situation, because in the homes in question chest diseases have been worsening, nerves have become wrecked and I gather that one marriage has broken down. The doctor told me that he thought that much of the background stemmed from the onset of stress in the past couple of years because of continual noise and inability to sleep"

If it was this bad back then, what is it like now? Any past/present residents on wiki?
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/...oad-wallasey#S5CV0931P0_19770503_HOC_464
I suggest reading it all and not just the snippets I posted because it does give a fuller picture of the issue, which does point out a lot problems which I believe still exist today
I just like to sensationalize laugh

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Re: Commons debate - Kingsway tunnel approach road [Re: mikeeb] #1016335
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This site has a wealth of commons debates
A bit of detective work needed for specific subjects but very interesting
I love it
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/

Re: Commons debate - Kingsway tunnel approach road [Re: mikeeb] #1016338
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I don't want to saturate the History forum with new threads or go off topic on this thread
I decided to go off topic on this thread grin but if you want me to open a new thread or just shut the f**k up let me know (politely) crazy

This debate is hard to understand for the most part (maybe Chris or Bert can help) wink
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/...y-private-bills#S3V0017P0_18330508_HOC_4
It is from 1833
RESTRICTIONS IMPOSED BY PRIVATE BILLS.
"The Nuisance Clause actually occupied nearly six pages. The most trifling thing was declared a nuisance; such as boys playing at marbles, &c. &c.; and such offender, were he unknown, might be seized, taken before a Magistrate, and fined 5l. A great deal of this petty legislation was struck out. Loitering in the streets was also declared a nuisance; so that a poor Irishman, just arrived from Ireland, in passing through Birkenhead, and looking at a shop window at articles exposed, as he naturally would, might have been seized and sent to prison. Many other Amendments were also made. He (Mr. Potter) took the liberty of making these observations; and would, with great deference, but most earnestly, entreat hon. Members to whom private Bills were referred, to look through them, whether they were opposed or not. He was a new Member, and hoped he should not be considered presumptuous in giving this advice"

" those remarks did not apply to the Bill as it stood at present"
It makes you think though



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