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#1015031 - 22nd Jul 2016 6:11pm Shootings in Munich
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God another one Munich shopping centre, multiple deaths.

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#1015034 - 22nd Jul 2016 7:14pm Re: Shootings in Munich [Re: cools]
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Just seen this Cools. This is becoming VERY worrying.

I was listening to the update on the French atrocity of last week. The man involved had only recently been radicalised (apparently) It makes one wonder if the lives of their families are threatened if they don't carry out instructions.

Not making excuses for the acts at all, but these indiscriminate terrorists will force anyone to do what they want. I read the other day that in Lebanon , children are forced to perform acts of cruelty on animals, to toughen them up ! No doubt the same practice goes on all over the Middle East and beyond.

Sympathies to all who have lost family and friends.
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#1015035 - 22nd Jul 2016 7:26pm Re: Shootings in Munich [Re: cools]
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Beginning to run out of words to express my horror at these horrible acts. The poor people in that shopping centre ,looked at one YouTube clip injured people lying around scared to move I expect. It could be any one of us. Really really scary. I think there will be a terrible backlash over this because Germany have a very strong following with far right movement. That is if it is another terrorist act , which it sounds like.My thoughts again are with the families and victims.


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#1015036 - 22nd Jul 2016 8:03pm Re: Shootings in Munich [Re: cools]
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Again those that seek to harm innocent people especially children deserve no place in a civilized society, they put themselves outside of any decent human response, then seek to hide behind a religion to justify their actions, if this religion of theirs encourages so called jihad against all non believers then that religion should be outlawed, the trouble is there are that many different interpretations of Islam its hard to find the truth, they change the meaning to suit the event.

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#1015058 - 23rd Jul 2016 11:20am Re: Shootings in Munich [Re: cools]
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Sometimes it would be better to dismiss anything the media tell us until proven truthful.

Because it was alleged there were three gunmen, we all assumed it was a terrorist attack. They built a whole day and night of News on the tv yesterday surrounding this terrorist attack. Whoever said there were three gunmen must have been lying! In fact, it was as follows;


In the last hour police in Munich have said the suspect in the shopping mall shootings is an 18-year-old German-Iranian national. He had been living in Munich for some time and acted alone, before killing himself.
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#1015060 - 23rd Jul 2016 11:28am Re: Shootings in Munich [Re: granny]
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Originally Posted By: granny
I was listening to the update on the French atrocity of last week. The man involved had only recently been radicalised (apparently)



Same applies to this...... Today it's stated that he'd been 'plotting for months'. Do we believe that too ? At the end of the day, what should we believe ? It would seem the only factual thing, is the event, which due again to past political, media coverage, throws everyone into a spin and we can be guilty of making our own accusations for the wrong reasons and against the wrong people.
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#1015197 - 25th Jul 2016 7:47am Re: Shootings in Munich [Re: granny]
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I get the distinct feeling that the Germans always try to play down the terrorist angle, maybe to allay peoples fears or it could be politically motivated to ease unrest about immigration, I heard they have arrested a 16 year old youth in connection with the recent shootings.

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#1015199 - 25th Jul 2016 8:10am Re: Shootings in Munich [Re: casper]
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A Syrian blew himself up last night in a different town. Injuring 12. Backpack devise after being refused entry to a music festival !

There again, it could be wrong information !


Edited by granny (25th Jul 2016 8:11am)
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#1015203 - 25th Jul 2016 8:40am Re: Shootings in Munich [Re: cools]
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Also in germany a syrian refugee also killed his girlfriend workmate with a meat cleaver at work and went berserk till a car driver deliberately took him out with his car. Police then arrested him. In this country he would be sueing the car driver.

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#1015204 - 25th Jul 2016 8:43am Re: Shootings in Munich [Re: granny]
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A German official says they are unsure of the motive, whether he was just trying to kill himself or kill others! so you try and gain entry to a festival with a haversack containing some sort of explosive device( possibly a nail bomb) to kill yourself.

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#1015220 - 25th Jul 2016 1:22pm Re: Shootings in Munich [Re: cools]
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The man was mentally unstable

'He told lies so often'
Mr Herrmann said the man had been known to have tried to take his own life twice and had spent time in a psychiatric clinic.
"We don't know if this man planned on suicide or if he had the intention of killing others," he said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36880758

This is all becoming too commonplace and is very worrying

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#1015221 - 25th Jul 2016 1:28pm Re: Shootings in Munich [Re: cools]
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More shootings in Florida
It is never ending
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36882456

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#1015235 - 25th Jul 2016 4:33pm Re: Shootings in Munich [Re: mikeeb]
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The mentally unstable tag seems to feature a lot lately, it does seem a bizarre coincidence, worrying indeed.

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#1015279 - 26th Jul 2016 3:49pm Re: Shootings in Munich [Re: fish5133]
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Another few killed in France after an attack on a church, Priest killed others injured, one attacker shot dead, another with a serious GSW, it now appears that there have been extra resources allotted here, to protect mosques and other places of the various religions that have been imposed upon us.

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#1015281 - 26th Jul 2016 4:23pm Re: Shootings in Munich [Re: cools]
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It is becoming a bit much now
Every day, WTF
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36892785

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