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#1014838 - 20th Jul 2016 11:40am Before and After Aleppo,Syria
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This may be posted in the wrong place , but it is world News as it's happening.

Tragic.



Edited by granny (20th Jul 2016 11:42am)
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#1014839 - 20th Jul 2016 11:57am Re: Before and After Aleppo,Syria [Re: granny]
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It just begs the question Granny, WHY??

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#1014907 - 20th Jul 2016 11:42pm Re: Before and After Aleppo,Syria [Re: granny]
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Sad and frightening to think that can happen when peoples disagree and dodgy people in power. Weve done are fair share of causing devastation --Dresden

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#1014909 - 20th Jul 2016 11:53pm Re: Before and After Aleppo,Syria [Re: granny]
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So when people spout 'Send them back'. I ask again 'Where to'? and to what?

Western country leaders and politicians have caused this shit.....
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#1014911 - 21st Jul 2016 12:03am Re: Before and After Aleppo,Syria [Re: granny]
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Not too sure about it being the fault of the West or anyone else.

It's civil war between President Bashar al-Assad's government and rebel forces, who want him out.

2000 yrs of History, gone in most of it.



Edited by granny (21st Jul 2016 12:05am)
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#1014913 - 21st Jul 2016 12:35am Re: Before and After Aleppo,Syria [Re: granny]
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You know I'm talking about recent times.....
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#1014914 - 21st Jul 2016 12:43am Re: Before and After Aleppo,Syria [Re: RUDEBOX]
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Recent times is the civil war Rude, started 4 years ago. President of Syria asked Russia to go in and help, as did rest of them after IS had got a stronghold.
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#1014917 - 21st Jul 2016 8:37am Re: Before and After Aleppo,Syria [Re: RUDEBOX]
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Originally Posted By: RUDEBOX
So when people spout 'Send them back'. I ask again 'Where to'? and to what?

Western country leaders and politicians have caused this shit.....


Rude you of all people shouldn't use the word spout. smile

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#1019016 - 3rd Sep 2016 10:13am Re: Before and After Aleppo,Syria [Re: granny]
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Reminds me of tolstoy quote again about the mad savage human race...."as long as theres slaughter houses therell be battlefields"
The human race love klling things....anyone&animals
They love conflict above all
True enlightenment as a destrucive species wont come till we just get on....
And im an atheist
Charlton heston " man ,that marvel of the universe ,the paradox of stars does he still make war with his brother and keep his neigbours children starving ?"

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#1019093 - 4th Sep 2016 12:30pm Re: Before and After Aleppo,Syria [Re: svenlock68]
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True Sven. We all thought great thing would happen after John Lennon released 'Imagine'. we thought all things would be resolved when Russia reduced it's nuclear arsenal. Pipe dreams ! we will never 'get on' for long enough to make a difference.
You can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.

So true.

However, I would like to know who advises these political heads of States.

Tony Blair, destroys Iraq, because of the possibility of WMD and accusing Saddam Hussein of killing his own, even though the invasion destroyed many more lives, but Blair was great pals with Gadaffi.

Cameron , involved in getting rid of Gaddafi and blasting Libya, for what reason ? I forget. Was it something to do with threats to kill his own people ?
Well, that's reversed rolls now, the people are killing the people instead and the corrupt and criminals have obviously taken control.
Cameron has never really uttered a word about that attack on Libya, since. Why was it necessary ?

Who is at the helm. Both actions and resulting dreadful atrocities have caused untold upheaval for Europe and the world and I can't believe that this was not called for by a higher level in world affairs to de-stabilize nations.. just can't think who or what would be so stupid and not foresee the pitfalls, and no plan to follow.

In these instances Rude is correct, but there has to be someone else at the root. A new Prime Minister like Cameron, is not going to make such rash decisions without huge pressure, when he had only just taken office .
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#1019137 - 4th Sep 2016 8:09pm Re: Before and After Aleppo,Syria [Re: granny]
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War and conflict is a big business it makes the world go round, governments and arms dealers are one and the same, take for example the Falklands conflict, France, Israel, selling armaments to Argentina, yet they all sleep in the same bed when it suits.

What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or in the holy name of liberty or democracy.

Mahatma Gandhi.

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#1019141 - 4th Sep 2016 8:18pm Re: Before and After Aleppo,Syria [Re: casper]
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Originally Posted By: casper
War and conflict is a big business it makes the world go round, governments and arms dealers are one and the same, take for example the Falklands conflict, France, Israel, selling armaments to Argentina, yet they all sleep in the same bed when it suits.

What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or in the holy name of liberty or democracy.

Mahatma Gandhi.
So true Casper.It is the corrupt politicians and government that caused this.Its the USA that started most of this.
Question is,Who is selling ISIS the weapons???

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#1020253 - 14th Sep 2016 8:51pm Re: Before and After Aleppo,Syria [Re: granny]
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Cameron did 60 billion arms trade yearly with saudi
Saudi funds isis
Say no more

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#1020264 - 15th Sep 2016 1:09am Re: Before and After Aleppo,Syria [Re: svenlock68]
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No, US was 60 billion dollars,

UK over 5 years; Some of it is the cost pf aircraft smile

UK arms sales to Saudi Arabia 'worth 5.6bn under David Cameron'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pol...s-a6797861.html

Still a lot of dosh but quite a difference !


Edited by granny (15th Sep 2016 1:14am)
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#1020302 - 15th Sep 2016 2:59pm Re: Before and After Aleppo,Syria [Re: granny]
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yet there are still a lot of people who don't believe in the illuminati, and think our world leaders are looking after us, l suppose it's better to bury our heads in the sand, even though we have a fair idea as to what these deviant's are up to


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