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Re: Another terror attack in France
[Re: mikeeb]
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15th Jul 2016 10:20am
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How many hits can a country take ? That is one big lorry and we surely have to wonder what it has been used for too. Smuggling ?
If most of these murderers are 'home grown' and are prepared to kill children , then I suggest that the only recourse is when their identity is known of those who commit these horrendous crimes, and their assistants, make it plain that families of those involved will be held to account.
If parents keep their children off school in this country, they can be fined or go to prison. Why can't the same apply to the families of those murderers.
Unfortunately , for those who already hold feelings of discrimination, this will play right into their hands.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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Re: Another terror attack in France
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15th Jul 2016 10:33am
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The home grown terrorist is the hardest to defend against, they are not true religious idealists, religion is a part of it but they also have a hatred of the country they live in, if you look at some of the past atrocities some of those involved had a History of criminal activity,easy to convert, feel as if they have been badly done to by the kafir, I feel so sorry for the people of France for their loss, they seem to be getting the brunt of it.
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Re: Another terror attack in France
[Re: venice]
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15th Jul 2016 11:28am
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These people are not frightened of death, and any other punishment comes under the flag of Human Rights. Prison breeds more and there was a programme on radio yesterday about how we in this country are hoping to be able to make adjustment also to the way that terrorists are being held. They are recruiting from inside the walls and there are many prisoners who follow Islam, in our jails.
If these murderers thought that their children, nephews, nieces brothers sisters, mothers, fathers, were likely to suffer in any way, they would clearly think twice about their involvement. I believe that. At the moment , being dead is their best option. They instantly become Martyrs.
This is clearly a situation when 'talking' is not a viable option , as they don't talk ever, they now kill children !
Last edited by granny; 15th Jul 2016 11:31am.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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Re: Another terror attack in France
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15th Jul 2016 12:55pm
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I disagree granny, some may love their families, but their so called 'love' of or 'call' from Allah is greater, so I dont believe it will stop them , and probably an awful lot have lost close ties with family years ago, once they started integrating themselves with likeminded ISIS type creatures - like extreme sects such as Moonies etc.
Wonder if Teresa will hasten to sort out the Human Rights laws .Have we finally passed the point where we can afford to remain 'civilized' ? I fear civilized wont cut it . We need more freedom to punish in different ways which could be allowable.True Muslims dont believe in violence so these people are not in that catagory in my opinion, so deserve no religious concessions or dignity. Im happy for the guilty imprisoned ones to have a just about reasonable temperature, basic mattress, dog hair filled pillow, no non prison clothes, no access to a prayer mat, no Koran, no food concessions whatsover , no facial or long hair allowed , no badger bristle shaving brush ( a porcine bristle will do ) , no TV or perks.No access to political newsprint. They can have an English Dictionary an encyclopaedia and a photo book of children with horrific facial and body injuries after terrorist attacks. SO upset with it all today for everyone involved --I may well be disgusted with my suggestions tomorrow when Ive calmed down, I dont know. Oh, I and I wouldnt feel obliged they needed to be buried facing East either if they died.
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Re: Another terror attack in France
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15th Jul 2016 1:24pm
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The only way apart from killing them all is to unindoctrinate them--but how. Bribery like a council flat in Bradford and a Lexus isn't going to influence them. The much criticised methods in the old testament History was to wipe out the entire nation men women and children (so called innocent with the guilty). But then your looking towards what Hitler tried to do. Afraid it does look like we have to live with it, hope and pray we are not in the wrong place at the wrong time, and let security forces pick them off. We could start to feel vunerable because we cant have our own guns in this country---(not that I really want one)
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Re: Another terror attack in France
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15th Jul 2016 1:38pm
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Having listened to radio 4 a bit earlier, a gentleman from France was explaining that in many cases the Intelligence in France is not necessarily shared with others, particularly with Belgium. Now having been through all this and the threats that we won't be able to share Intelligence with EU if we leave, stands to be questioned. However, he also said that the integration of Europe and the middle eastern countries is one way they are now infiltrating our societies and they are beginning to use the same methods in Europe e.g running a truck through crowds as they have done in the middle east for long enough. This doesn't give any one confidence in the what is becoming a war on European soil. No country has offered any sort of remedy other than now singing the praises of how the influx of migrants has reduced due to paying off Turkey and making a deal with them. What a pathetic ideology. These so called IS militants are not of foreign birth in most cases , so far. They have been radicalised from a distance and maybe the only answer is to make an example in the first instance of extreme retribution . Words don't hit their ears. Germany will no doubt suffer the same consequences and every other European country form now on. France is also very racist and their involvement in countries of African origin due to Colonialism is also part of the problem.
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Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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