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Re: Hilary Benn Sacked
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26th Jun 2016 8:54am
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What is possible, is with the likes of Hilary Benn going and many others voicing 'no confidence' in the Labour party, With time from the new leader of the Tories being positioned, I think a new Political Party will be a result made up of the disgruntled Labour. It's been done it before.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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Re: Hilary Benn Sacked
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26th Jun 2016 9:25am
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Sorry Corbyn isn't the right leader imo. Too passive about so much, does anyone hear him?? Jeremy Corbyn needs to go, a pathetic accuse for a party leader. Always said he wouldn't last long. Is it Corbyn that's wrong or that we have been conditioned to expect bullish lying psuedo-politicians these days? This referendum has shown the worst - there has been very little politics or truth but just a school-ground game of naa-naa-na-naah-naa. Isn't it about time we had a principled gentleman as a leader, after all this is about being a decision-maker not a variety act.
The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020
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Re: Hilary Benn Sacked
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26th Jun 2016 9:47am
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Personally I now think that is possible. All these leaders are the right person until they become elected. Then, they seem to behave in the same way as the last. I honestly believe that once in power, all the aspirations and truths are knocked out of them, due to the political machine from Europe , dictating the course that each has to take. Now maybe we will have someone who can be honest with the British public.
With regard to the call or a new referendum. I hope that can not happen, it is probably more than true to say, most of those who have signed are from different countries anyway.
Watching Blair on This Week, he still cannot take any blame even now for his immigration programme and the problem of no building of housing during his reign to accommodate 3 million. Yet again, he's off loaded the blame . Roll on Chilcott.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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Re: Hilary Benn Sacked
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26th Jun 2016 2:03pm
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Thatcher made two very fundamental mistakes:-
She thought the country could run off the service industry with no need for heavy industry.
She also believed that as people became rich they became philanthropic.
Everything she did was based on those two assumptions, both of which were/are heavily flawed.
If you start thinking why Corbyn did receive such a large mandate instead of finding reasons why he shouldn't you will begin to understand how he got here. People wanted a politician that could make reasoned open decisions for the people of the country, not a salesman that could sell fridges to Eskimos.
It would be nice if Corbyn had a bit more presence but it is way down my list of priorities, functionality before aesthetics any day. It will come with time anyway, look at the Farage of today compared to a few years ago, he is much more statesmanlike now.
The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020
Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton
We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
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Re: Hilary Benn Sacked
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26th Jun 2016 2:56pm
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If you start thinking why Corbyn did receive such a large mandate instead of finding reasons why he shouldn't you will begin to understand how he got here.
The reason he received such a large mandate was the votes of all the Conservatives who had paid their £3 to join the party. As a leader, let alone an international statesman, he's a joke.
Carpe diem.
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Re: Hilary Benn Sacked
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26th Jun 2016 3:12pm
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The reason he received such a large mandate was the votes of all the Conservatives who had paid their £3 to join the party. I'm amazed how proud some Tories are to admit they had lied and cheated to achieve corruption of democracy - that is the behaviour that made me leave the Conservative Party many years ago. What were they so frightened of that they had to take these steps?
The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020
Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton
We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
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Toyah . .
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Toyah . .
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