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Originally Posted by Excoriator
Perhaps banning the sale of bottled water in supermarkets would be a good start for regulation. It is quite unnecessary, and - being unchlorinated - more likely to contain harmful bacteria than what comes through your tap.


Sorry but that's rubbish.

1) Bottled water on sale is a good, healthy alternative to fizzy pop.

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As a nation we now drink more bottled water than fruit juices/nectars, wine or spirits. The long term growth in bottled water consumption is testament, perhaps, to the now ubiquitous acceptance of the advice to drink eight glasses of water a day for optimum health.


2) Most bottles of water sold are small 500ml bottles, consumed while out, so what's that got to do with home wheelie bin collections.

3) It doesn't need to be chlorinated.

4) There's more germs on the end of your tap than the water source of a bottling factory.

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Sorry, but not having read all these replies I may be forgiven for repeating any other points of view.

Firstly, if it a weekly collection,

a) how big is the bin likely to be. Half size maybe ?

b) I assume food will be strictly food and not contained in plastic bags ?

c) with that in mind, will the council be sending 'bin cleaners' around, 'FREE OF CHARGE'.

d) If it's small enough to put in our bath to clean it, then in that case, is it likely to blow away with a gust of wind here on Windy Wirral ? The big ones regularly end up in the road, after left at the edge of the kerb on a windy day.

e) the black bins used to bio-degrade some of our garden waste and fruit/vege as instructed by the council. £15 each they cost and all it did was feed the rats. F-ing big fat ones in their winter coats. Another good idea ill thought out for the average household.

f) If they are finding finances a struggle now, why on earth are they going to spend more on unnecessary refuse collections.

I think we should all demand a FREE BIN CLEANING SERVICE to accompany a food only bin. My lord. the stench on a hot day !! The flies and blue bottles. It's taking me back to the back streets of Athens where wild dogs congregate, or the markets in Istanbul. In fact, I think they had cleaner habits due to living in hot countries. Who , in their right mind would store used food unwrapped, in a container for a week without being forced to ??


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From what I gather when I heard them talking you will get a small bin Granny with a bag put anything food in it even eggshells banana skins etc tie up securely and place in another bin,they provide which will be emptied weekly.

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Originally Posted by Excoriator
Perhaps banning the sale of bottled water in supermarkets would be a good start for regulation. It is quite unnecessary, and - being unchlorinated - more likely to contain harmful bacteria than what comes through your tap.


Sorry but that's rubbish.

1) Bottled water on sale is a good, healthy alternative to fizzy pop.

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As a nation we now drink more bottled water than fruit juices/nectars, wine or spirits. The long term growth in bottled water consumption is testament, perhaps, to the now ubiquitous acceptance of the advice to drink eight glasses of water a day for optimum health.


2) Most bottles of water sold are small 500ml bottles, consumed while out, so what's that got to do with home wheelie bin collections.

3) It doesn't need to be chlorinated.

4) There's more germs on the end of your tap than the water source of a bottling factory.


What did we do before we had bottled water ? We had glass bottles, and we took our glass bottle back to the shop . Each bottle had 3d return given. What did we do with our food waste before we had plastic ? We wrapped it in newspapers and put it in the bin. All bio-degradable. What did we do with our old clothes or furniture etc. ? A rag and bone man would come around the street calling 'any ol iron' etc. We would give those things to him. Milk was delivered in (Glass) bottles, fruit/vege and meat , delivered by the butcher the baker the candlestick maker. = no plastic bags, less petrol. The 'pop' man would call, or Corona man as he became later.. He would collect the bottles the next week. We had little flasks we would syphon drinks into, whether it be water /juice or whatever. They went everywhere with us. That could still be the case , if most weren't so bloody lazy. We are living in a consumers society, and unfortunately it brings all the problems with it. We are all guilty but quite simply, I think the plastic bottles are dreadful and all the plastic packaging on foods too. Apart from disposal, they are a pain to open and seem to be getting more burglar proof.


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Originally Posted by cools
From what I gather when I heard them talking you will get a small bin Granny with a bag put anything food in it even eggshells banana skins etc tie up securely and place in another bin, they provide which will be emptied weekly.


Thanks Cools. Looks as if we will end up with about 8, like they have in N.Wales. All different shapes and sizes. Let's see the size and colour of the bin. I just love to see all these bins lined up in Harrowby Road ! It gives such a colourful, ethereal feel about the area and so explicit to any visitors to the area. Of course, it's not only Harrowby Road, is it ? It's all the roads where councillors ,local politicians, and officials, don't live. Then they wonder why these kids living in a 'new age ghetto', behave badly and have social issues. Stop blaming the parents and look at it through a different lense.
Who wants to live in a street full of bins ?? Would you, Mr Mayor ?


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I agree with you Granny. Life seemed a lot less complicated then we also had open fires which we could burn a lot of waste on. Newspapers had so many uses. I always say, eventually something will happen and things will have to go back to where we were making use of every little thing.

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Here are the little bins that are being talked about regarding food waste.

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So is that supposed to be 40% of a green bin size no


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Yes I've got to agree they do look rather small and then they are saying we may get a smaller green bin size . I think they should leave the green bin the way it is after all it will only be emptied every three weeks.

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And when you forget its bin day for what ever reason, 3 weeks become 6wks. Does our Council tax not pay for a reasonable bin cover??

Or will we get a rebate as there are clearly saying that it will be converted into energy. Just like the free brown bin sarga.


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Originally Posted by cools
I always say, eventually something will happen and things will have to go back to where we were making use of every little thing.


Erm, do you not have any idea of the concept of recycling? That's why we have so many bins!

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Originally Posted by Mark
And when you forget its bin day for what ever reason, 3 weeks become 6wks. Does our Council tax not pay for a reasonable bin cover??


Maybe you forgot that the government offered money to councils to reinstate weekly bin collections:

Councils shun cash to reinstate weekly bin collections
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/jul/06/council-cash-weekly-bin-collection

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This gets worse, its being narrowed down to two options....

Option 1 Reduces the size of the Green bins but collects them fortnightly.

Option 2 Keeps the Green bin the same size but collects 3 weekly.

The decision is being made on Friday.


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Why does the size of the bin have a relation to frequency of collection?

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