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Channel 4's The Last Leg last night #1011151
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Anyone else watch it?
Jeremy Corbin was on it seeming to give honest answers to some of the questions.
I enjoyed it quite a lot, but on googling reactions to it I see lots of other folk did too but most of the online papers said the opposite











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We watched it and enjoyed it thumbsup


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Re: Channel 4's The Last Leg last night [Re: derekdwc] #1011161
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I like Jeremy Corbyn because he is a politician as opposed to the trash most of our parliament are, however most of his "remain" argument is completely flawed.

Things like workers rights etc if we left would be down to the UK parliament to choose. We live in a democracy and most people are employees, if the Labour party get in power they can bring these rights in, if Labour are in opposition they can exert their influence over the tories and encourage the population to support them.

The UK government is far more answerable/accountable the the EU government - the people have U-turned the UK government many times, I think we have only u-turned the EU twice and they were more swerves than u-turns.

I don't fully understand Corbyn's stance on this other than he may be doing it as a democratic reason within his party (most Labour MP are remainers), however I don't think most of the Labour party members are remainers - he should ask his party members.


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I was "encouraged" to watch it after the football (at a friends house). Not a programme I would deliberately choose to watch. Don't know why Crowe was even on it but he and Corbyn actually came across as mature sensible people which is the complete opposite of the show. In a sort of way I got the impression he was just thinking what a bunch of mindless wallys the audience and presenters were. But that maybe because I am nearer his age. Corbyn went up in my estimation----but doesn't get my vote

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I don't fully understand Corbyn's stance on this...


It is very straightforward. As part of the EU, there are agreements as to how workers should be treated. This is essential if you are to have a level playing field.

Corbyn suspects - and I'm sure he's right - that things like a minimum paid holiday entitlement, sick pay, a degree of job security etc would rapidly be abolished by this government were we out of it. This would give them a cost advantage over the EU we would be able to undercut them - at the cost of poorer working conditions. The unions have already been weakened by successive governments, and no doubt would face further legislation.

Incidentally, the EU has no power to make laws over us unless we - as a country - have already agreed to them being tabled for approval by the European parliament. If we don't agree with them we can stop them. It is perfectly democratic.

I suspect that what happens is that our government agrees to something it doesn't like in exchange for getting some other piece of legislation through. Horse trading in effect.It is very convenient to be able to blame the EU for the stuff they don't like, particularly if people are ignorant of how it works.

I think the Media are to blame for this. Most folk know more about american politics than about European politics which makes no sense to me whatsoever.

However you paint it, leaving is a huge economic risk. We currently export over a million cars a year into Europe and the rest of the world, because many foreign manufacturers - mainly from Japan - see us as a convenient place within the EU from where they can ship cars across the continent without fuss. If we leave, I am sure companies like Nissan will too - probably to countries where labour is cheaper, but within the EU.

As an island we are prone to xenophobia and suffer - still - from a 'them and us' attitude to the EU. This is not true of the european community in general where driving into a neighbouring country every day to work is quite common.

You can see what the financial industry thinks of leaving by the slump in the pound and the share prices when news of the Independent's poll giving the Leave side a 10 point advantage yesterday. These are not folk you would trust, necessarily, but they probably gave a better idea of the financial shock awaiting us than most.

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Originally Posted by Excoriator
Incidentally, the EU has no power to make laws over us unless we - as a country - have already agreed to them being tabled for approval by the European parliament. If we don't agree with them we can stop them. It is perfectly democratic.


And that is the problem - we have already lost power to numerous things which EU adapts without any diplomatic process - our Governments (treasonably!) gave our powers away and we cannot get them back.

The Lisbon Treaty was signed by the UK Government only because of the lie that "it does not have constitutional implications" - if giving your state's powers away to foreign nationals is not a constitutional implication then I'd like to know what is.


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We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn

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