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granny #1003672 5th Mar 2016 8:23pm
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copy the link and paste it into google search brings the article up.
As far as I'm concerned we're in an age of scare tactics and cover-ups by the media and politicians.

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Originally Posted by derekdwc
copy the link and paste it into google search brings the article up.
As far as I'm concerned we're in an age of scare tactics and cover-ups by the media and politicians.
Cheers will do that when i get on my lappy.

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Originally Posted by casper
Perhaps those making judgement should also read this

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009oct/10/jack-jones-christopher-andrew-mi5
Read this article now- thanks for posting.

Did you know?

'The Jack Jones Trust in collaboration with Hurricane Films are aiming to produce a film that celebrates the extraordinary life of one of the greatest British figures of the last century'.

I recieved the Documentary Funding Brochure today...

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Originally Posted by casper


Just a bit about my concerns for our armed forces, I have a great pride in them having once been a proud serving member, and feel saddened that they have been neglected and run down to such a low level, you speak of the EU it is not the EU asking for integration it is us to save money, don't forget our forces were based in Germany along with our NATO allies to face the threat of a Soviet invasion, so nothing new in that.




As a follow up:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/64...tary-merger-UK-stay-in-British-Army-UKIP

Maritime are taking part on the NATO exercises.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-maritime-personnel-to-take-part-in-winter-training-exercise


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If such should happen, what then is to say that conscription would not be re-introduced for all 18yrs olds into National Service as we would know it or European Service as it could be named ?





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The Telegraph says it is part of the recent Dave deal, or is it scaremongering?

My own opinion is it will never happen check this

https://fullfact.org/europe/hunt-eu-army/

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Nobody has denied it and it has been discussed numerous times, and it would be absolutely nothing to do with a Dave deal. Any Dave deals, would have to be put through Parliament voted for by all sides of the house, and the Lords for any deal to be done from this side of the channel. That is I believe democracy.
Alternatively, Europe can do much as it wishes, so long as things were originally drawn up and signed for in treaties, that were then put on the back boiler until a later date. We don't know what has been signed away over the years, we have never been privy to most of that. Maybe Blair did so as he is very much for uniting the forces of European countries. .

All I can hope is that people haven't got blinkers on, rather like the Germans who were led blindfolded .

We already have a European Anthem, a European flag; New Zealand are looking to change their flag now, as have some other British Colonies. Everything is pointing 'hook line and sinker ' into our rapid engulfment into Europe, after June 23 if it's a 'yes' vote.

I would rather stick with the friends we know like Australia, Canada, New Zealand , Fiji, and so many more of our loyal cousins.

If the majority is a 'yes' vote , I hope anyone who complains at the moment about the number of migrants in this country, never complains again at the numbers we shall be forced to take.

On another issue, if every member state took 20,000 migrants, that figure at the moment is a fair figure as it would total over half a million, and the 800,000 that Germany were prepared to take, would achieve the present supposed figure of 1,500,000000 (is that one and a half million ?) Getting carried away with the 0's .
Unfortunately , many of the other member sates won't budge, probably due to countries like Croatia, Bosnia ,Kosovo (breaking up of what was Yugoslavia) and their inter-ethnic(Muslim) wars of the 1990s' . Who can blame the countries in the same region for not wanting to de stable their own again, after such horrific times so recently. Why should Brussels force that situation on those eastern European member states ?

Also, do we really believe that the eastern European members are free from the communism they once had ruling them. I think not and like a cancer getting ready to creep across Europe along with too many other things right now. Look at Turkey, they are blackmailing their way into the EU, and with borders on Greece and Bulgaria, they are in a very powerful position, and with eventually such ferocity, Europe including Britain will end up being part of something too big to handle. The bigger one gets, the bigger the battle !! We can always take part, but we don't have to give our souls away.

Maybe I should not write a book, but I do have a crystal ball you know. laugh


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Eastern Europe, communism? That's news to me.


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Wake up DD.

Soviet controlled eastern bloc countries were, Poland, East Germany, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Czech Republic, The Balkans: Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Rep. of Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, and Slovenia. How many are now EU member states ?

Now give me a rest , it's Mother's Day.


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Maybe not at the moment, but you can bet your bottom dollar, it will be lurking in the shadows somewhere, just like the New Communist party of Great Britain is, in this country . The difference is, we have never had communism in this country but those other countries have , and at a guess ,with many sleeping supports !


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Do you think those countries enjoyed being under Russian rule?

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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Do you think those countries enjoyed being under Russian rule?

Happy mother's day smile


So you now agree !

and Thank you very much. smile


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Still no working Casper.

Anyway, have a look at this. Just what's going on TODAY with Turkey, Greece, Romania, Albania, Cyprus, Macedonia, Hungary etc. We don't need any scare tactics from anyone in this country. This article gives more than enough to scare us and the comments by the Hungarian Prime Minister seems pretty accurate.

Angelina Jolie (UN special envoy) needs to shut up.

http://www.unsw-ymca.org.au/blog/nu...-loaded-soft-drinks#sthash.YZDRZNxf.dpbs


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What's with you two and links lol

Casper's should be http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-army-in-exchange-for-renegotiation.html

I am assuming Granny has inside info that the Hungarian prime minister has a sweet tooth? Or perhaps its THIS?


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