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#266729 - 29th Oct 2008 8:30am I'm mad
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Sorry but I am mad. Not mad in the bonkers sense but mad with anger at the insensitivity of the BBC once again.

Ross and Brand are being villified and quite rightly in my humble but this morning on "Breakfast" who do the BBC bring out to comment on this? None other than the man who caused more grief to people than Ross or Brand could ever hope to emulate. Yes Mr Kelvin MacKenzie former editor of the Sun. It's like Ian Brady being invited to comment on Herod's treatment of children.

I know the BBC have had thousands if not hundreds of thousands of complaints about employing this man in any capacity yet they seem to delight in seeking controversy and drag him out periodically. I can only assume that they do it on purpose? I have emailed Breakfast, and the complaints department of the BBC. Nothing will be done as usual but I have to try.

I had to get it off my chest so apologies if in the wrong place or shouldn't be posted at all.
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#266750 - 29th Oct 2008 10:23am Re: I'm mad [Re: Morseman]
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Have you seen Andrew Sachs's grand-daughter?
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#266772 - 29th Oct 2008 12:59pm Re: I'm mad [Re: MissGuided]
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#266778 - 29th Oct 2008 1:07pm Re: I'm mad [Re: jonno40]
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#266779 - 29th Oct 2008 1:07pm Re: I'm mad [Re: jonno40]
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HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! raftl

I have to say this whole thing has made me mad for different reasons. This country is full of people who wish to complain about anything and everything!

In the grand scheme of things, it concerns nobody but the Sachs family.

His Grand-daughters' career will no doubt take off because of this - after all, publicity is publicity. Who had actually heard of her or her music career before this whole hoo-harr??

Get a grip is my reply - nobody died so what's the problem??
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#266782 - 29th Oct 2008 1:11pm Re: I'm mad [Re: PaganJay]
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It is just because it was done in bad taste.
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#266785 - 29th Oct 2008 1:15pm Re: I'm mad [Re: PaganJay]
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Originally Posted By: PaganJay
HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! raftl

I have to say this whole thing has made me mad for different reasons. This country is full of people who wish to complain about anything and everything!

In the grand scheme of things, it concerns nobody but the Sachs family.

His Grand-daughters' career will no doubt take off because of this - after all, publicity is publicity. Who had actually heard of her or her music career before this whole hoo-harr??

Get a grip is my reply - nobody died so what's the problem??



withstupid whistle withstupid



no i had never heard of her or her music
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#266786 - 29th Oct 2008 1:21pm Re: I'm mad [Re: PaganJay]
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What's really annoying me is the way the complaints have increased.
After the broadcast 1500 complaints
Lunchtime yesterday 5000 complaints
Teatime yesterday 10,000 complaints
Lunchtime today 18,000 complaints

Did all the extra people wait to complain or is it a case of jumping on the bandwagon.

I can just imagine the calls now.
"Hello is that the BBC? I want to complain about something that I didn't hear but it was on the news that people were complaining and I'm sure that if I had heard it I would be offended.
I don't pay my license fee to be exposed to filth such as this, even though I wasn't actually exposed to it but I could have been and that's the whole point" etc. doh smack

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#266787 - 29th Oct 2008 1:22pm Re: I'm mad [Re: _jase_]
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Tbh, for a radio programme to provoke upwards of 20,000 complaints, it must have been extremely distasteful. When something bad on TV occurs, the most you ever see even from the likes of EE and Corrie (which gain 12million+ viewers per episode) is a few hundred complaints.

From what I understand, the language used was obscene as well, so that may have prompted some anger; I have seen many radio stations, even the biggest ones like talkSPORT sack presenters who have used foul language on air.

The BBC should not, as the only publically funded PSB, be seen to endorse such behaviour, both the language and content where out of order for the BBC Code Of Conduct, and I believe the BBC Trust and Ofcom should come down heavily on the situation, if the BBC are not seen to deal with it in an effective manner.

Russell Brand will be no loss to anyone, I hope Jonathan Ross don't go though.

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#266790 - 29th Oct 2008 1:35pm Re: I'm mad [Re: MattLFC]
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I think some are missing the point. It is nothing to do with Ross or Brand but the fact that the BBC used Mackenzie to comment on it.

This is the guy who accused Merseysiders of some terrible things at Hillsborough which were proven to be false.

I am not a band wagon jumper and don't care about this woman whom I note has already been interviewed by the Sun. Personally I would rather choke on my own vomit than have anything to do with that rag but no doubt they are paying her a fortune.
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#266794 - 29th Oct 2008 1:50pm Re: I'm mad [Re: Morseman]
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You're right Morseman, sorry about going OT.
I agree with you about the Scum I mean Sun. Hang on I was right the first time.
If it was a choice between wiping my a*se with that rag or a handful of broken glass and rusty nails I say bring on the glass and nails.

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#266796 - 29th Oct 2008 2:00pm Re: I'm mad [Re: scoops]
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what a lot dont know is that mr Mackenzie is the chairman and chief executive of The mirror.


Edited by _jase_ (29th Oct 2008 2:02pm)
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#266804 - 29th Oct 2008 4:18pm Re: I'm mad [Re: _jase_]
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Originally Posted By: _jase_
what a lot dont know is that mr Mackenzie is the chairman and chief executive of The mirror.


Which Mirror would that be? Sly Bailey is the Chief exec of the Daily Mirror from what I have found. I am making more enquiries but somehow I doubt this to be true. No more Mirror for me if so!
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#266811 - 29th Oct 2008 4:49pm Re: I'm mad [Re: Morseman]
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Just had an email from one of the Mirror's well known columnists. He confirms that MacKenzie is nothing to do with the Mirror and is a columnist for the Scum.
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#266827 - 29th Oct 2008 6:23pm Re: I'm mad [Re: Morseman]
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#266828 - 29th Oct 2008 6:24pm Re: I'm mad [Re: Morseman]
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Well at least this means the girl can now afford to buy herself a washing machine - dirty bird always seems to have the same basque on!
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#266842 - 29th Oct 2008 7:44pm Re: I'm mad [Re: MissGuided]
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7698417.stm

For someone to quit over it speaks volumes about the seriousness of the incident imho. Maybe the 18,000+ complaints were justified...

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#266883 - 29th Oct 2008 9:35pm Re: I'm mad [Re: MattLFC]
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maybe people should get over themselvrs! if i see or hear something I dont like I turn it off or over. Thease peopole should get out more!
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#266886 - 29th Oct 2008 9:41pm Re: I'm mad [Re: Sir_longmong]
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Originally Posted By: Sir_longmong
maybe people should get over themselvrs! if i see or hear something I dont like I turn it off or over. Thease peopole should get out more!

I hear exactly what you are saying, and agree with it; however, the BBC is a publically funded service, and should not be seen to endorse this type of crap from their staff.

Whether people had complained or not makes no difference to what the consequences should be. The fact of the matter is, people are allowed to complain, and they have. I know a lot of people are too comfortable and have nothing better to do in their sad little lives than complain about stupid things, but 18,000 complaints is almost unprecidented, so it must have been extremely out of order.

The Brits are known for being too relaxed, too stubborn/stupid to complain in most situations etc, yet the moment people do, they are frowned upon by those that dont.

If nobody ever complained, the media would get away with murder, its the only thing that keeps them in check. However there are a LOT of stupid complaints, such as the 118 complaints Ofcom recieved regarding a gay kiss on Eastenders a few weeks back, I mean wtf!!!

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#266897 - 29th Oct 2008 9:50pm Re: I'm mad [Re: MattLFC]
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edited, bit heartbreaking for the gay community raftl


Edited by _Ste_ (29th Oct 2008 9:57pm)
Edit Reason: for the gays of the villages feelings
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#266898 - 29th Oct 2008 9:52pm Re: I'm mad [Re: MattLFC]
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the most appropiate punishment would be to hang Russell Brand methinks!
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#266902 - 29th Oct 2008 10:00pm Re: I'm mad [Re: _Ste_]
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Originally Posted By: _Ste_
edited, bit heartbreaking for the gay community raftl


Thought original comment was better!!!
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#266944 - 29th Oct 2008 11:23pm Re: I'm mad [Re: Sir_longmong]
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what percent of actual listeners are so disgusted? not heard it but it might have had high comedy value. entertaining for us paupers who aint made a fortune from saying k?
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#266965 - 30th Oct 2008 12:05am Re: I'm mad [Re: rentaclown100]
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Its all a publicity stunt

I say good riddance to them all

And a merry Christmas to you
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#266974 - 30th Oct 2008 12:19am Re: I'm mad [Re: MissGuided]
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I couldnt care less what was actually said. It may have been distasteful, but end of the day, only one good thing can come from this....




That Hopefully Russel Brand realises that he is an utter C.ock, and desreves to..
a)Die in a Fire
b)Choke on Barbed Wire
c)Fall on broken glass etc etc...

Hes not funny, he wears horriffically gay clothes, and has needed a haircut since the age of 7. Good Riddance...



Hope Johnathan Ross doesnt get dealt too bad a hand though...
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#266976 - 30th Oct 2008 12:22am Re: I'm mad [Re: AlfaCraig]
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Originally Posted By: Mi_Craig
I couldnt care less what was actually said. It may have been distasteful, but end of the day, only one good thing can come from this....




That Hopefully Russel Brand realises that he is an utter C.ock, and desreves to..
a)Die in a Fire
b)Choke on Barbed Wire
c)Fall on broken glass etc etc...

Hes not funny, he wears horriffically gay clothes, and has needed a haircut since the age of 7. Good Riddance...



Hope Johnathan Ross doesnt get dealt too bad a hand though...


raftl

I like your multi choice - a.) please - as its seems like a thorough resolution - you could still live from the others
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#266982 - 30th Oct 2008 12:24am Re: I'm mad [Re: MissGuided]
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Ill see what can be arranged. Being good friends with many Pasty faced street Urchins around Camden, and on good speaking terms with Julien Barrat and Noel Fielding (Of The Mighty Boosh fame), Im sure something can take place
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#266984 - 30th Oct 2008 12:25am Re: I'm mad [Re: AlfaCraig]
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ok - i'll donate a fiver to the cause


*name dropper* lol
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#266986 - 30th Oct 2008 12:26am Re: I'm mad [Re: AlfaCraig]
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Originally Posted By: Mi_Craig
Ill see what can be arranged. Being good friends with many Pasty faced street Urchins around Camden, and on good speaking terms with Julien Barrat and Noel Fielding (Of The Mighty Boosh fame), Im sure something can take place


Yeah man happy get me their autographs wink
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#266989 - 30th Oct 2008 12:28am Re: I'm mad [Re: _Ste_]
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Originally Posted By: Mi_Craig
Ill see what can be arranged. Being good friends with many Pasty faced street Urchins around Camden, and on good speaking terms with Julien Barrat and Noel Fielding (Of The Mighty Boosh fame), Im sure something can take place


Yeah man happy get me their autographs wink


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