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#182078 - 1st Nov 2007 9:27am StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car.
StuyMac StuyMac Shit Hawks are Coming!! Wiki Guide Registered: 24th Nov 2003 Posts: 5759 Loc: Wirral	So, here we have yet another Modified car thread by me.... Well I picked the new car up yesterday - a 1992 Honda Civic VTi-SiR which I plan to prep for the Classic Touring Car Championship in the Pre93's, up to 1600cc Class $\:\)$ Its the imported Civic VTi which means it makes 168bhp std rather than the 158 from a UK car, has the LSD gearbox, no suroof, its also bee played with a little already and has, a full exhaust inc 4 branch manifold, induction kit, remapped ECU, uprated fuel rail, FPR, Integra Inlet manifold, throttle body and cams, short shift, 282mm brakes with twin pot calipers and lowering springs. Plans for the car are to get it eligible for the Championship mentioned above, that means I need the following and will probably buy them in this order: Competition Clutch Rollcage (Inc stripping the car) Seat Harness Ignition cut off Fire Extinguisher Toyo 888 Tyres Coilovers Better front Brake pads As an addition to things for the car I also need: An ARDS test to get a full race license A tow ball on the back of the BMW I already have a pukka race suit, and helmet $\:\)$ That little lot should get me up and racing, with anything else that follows being an evolution of the car $\:\)$ The car itself wasn’t in as good condition as I initially thought, but, I did get it pretty cheap, and I would be worried about racing a minter on a track through fear of it getting damaged - so some tatty patches make it more livable with if anything should happen. The main thing is its mechanically good, and the chassis is good $\:\)$ Watch this space, as I start modding this car up and getting it ready - hopefully it will remain road legal all the way through, as regs for the championship say lights must work etc which is the main thing that would mean it couldn’t be used on the road... _________________________ Racing is life, everything that happens before, and after, is just waiting. Saving Race Tokens
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#182081 - 1st Nov 2007 10:19am Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: StuyMac]
turbo_stu turbo_stu Smartchild Registered: 2nd Jan 2006 Posts: 656 Loc: my head	nice! if you buy any chance want to sell it (or then engine) then i would gladly take it off your hands! _________________________ always looking for those bigger bunches of bananas!
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#182088 - 1st Nov 2007 11:22am Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: turbo_stu]
spinking spinking Forum Guardian Registered: 11th May 2004 Posts: 4208 Loc: Happy Home	Get in the chewy. Look forward to seeing how this goes. _________________________
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#182095 - 1st Nov 2007 11:37am Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: spinking]
Mark Mark Wiki Master Registered: 9th Nov 2003 Posts: 14969 Loc: Wirral	Very nice stuy $;\)$ And good luck with it all, i think you will do just great mate $;\)$ _________________________ www.wikiwirral.co.uk For Sale items are listed on +25 websites Sharing knowledge with members and friends.
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#182112 - 1st Nov 2007 12:46pm Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: Mark]
BMW Joe BMW Joe Hardcore Shrimp Joy Wiki Guardian Registered: 30th Apr 2006 Posts: 9532 Loc: Birkenhead	yeah, good luck with it. will be interesting to see how it goes _________________________
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#182114 - 1st Nov 2007 1:15pm Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: BMW Joe]
lawton lawton Forum Addict Registered: 12th May 2004 Posts: 1695 Loc: woundn`t you like to know	nice seen that u were getting it on mnr, will have to let us no when ya racing it $;\)$ _________________________ http://www.bebo.com/marklawton844
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#182956 - 5th Nov 2007 11:00am Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: lawton]
StuyMac StuyMac Shit Hawks are Coming!! Wiki Guide Registered: 24th Nov 2003 Posts: 5759 Loc: Wirral	Been busy with this since I picked it up, and over the weekend it went through a weigh loss program $\:\)$ All the back has now been stripped (B pillar back) - which has made it considerably louder inside! Ive ordered a 6 point FIA harness, Coilovers, OMP Cage and I have my eye on a seat $\:\)$ Im also waiting on a price back from the states on a clutch kit, which consists of a 6 prong paddle plate, uprated cover, release bearing, pivot bearing, and ali flywheel! Ill try and get some interior pics tonight $\:\)$ Edited by StuyMac (5th Nov 2007 11:02am) _________________________ Racing is life, everything that happens before, and after, is just waiting. Saving Race Tokens
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#182970 - 5th Nov 2007 1:48pm Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: StuyMac]
Wheels Wheels Forum Guardian Registered: 4th Jan 2005 Posts: 4295 Loc: birkenhead	i want one! _________________________ Wheels's Hobby fund for 2009 = £55.33 of £2000
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#183253 - 6th Nov 2007 12:23pm Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: StuyMac]
Matman Matman Newbeee Registered: 6th Nov 2007 Posts: 38 Loc: Ellesemere Port	Looks and sounds like a nice project fella $\:D$ If you need any bits gives us a bell $;\)$ _________________________ http://www.mda-motorsport.co.uk 275bhp and 320lb/ft rally monster that is my Sapphire Cosworth 170bhp and 165lb/ft @ 105mph that is my 2.0ltr Zetec Escort Si
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#183254 - 6th Nov 2007 12:27pm Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: StuyMac]
StuyMac StuyMac Shit Hawks are Coming!! Wiki Guide Registered: 24th Nov 2003 Posts: 5759 Loc: Wirral	Originally Posted By: StuyMac Competition Clutch Rollcage (Inc stripping the car) Seat Harness Ignition cut off Fire Extinguisher Toyo 888 Tyres Coilovers Better front Brake pads Things in bold are the items Ive not had a price on yet, all the others, I have, but if you want to quote on them, and see if you can beat the prices I already have... $\:\)$ _________________________ Racing is life, everything that happens before, and after, is just waiting. Saving Race Tokens
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#183256 - 6th Nov 2007 12:35pm Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: StuyMac]
Matman Matman Newbeee Registered: 6th Nov 2007 Posts: 38 Loc: Ellesemere Port	Well I am dealer for cobra seats have a look at what seats you like/want and let me know and I will get you a price $\:D$ $\:D$ the rest i cant get YET! p.s what coilovers u get as Iam a dealer for gaz if your interetsed $\:D$ _________________________ http://www.mda-motorsport.co.uk 275bhp and 320lb/ft rally monster that is my Sapphire Cosworth 170bhp and 165lb/ft @ 105mph that is my 2.0ltr Zetec Escort Si
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#183259 - 6th Nov 2007 12:42pm Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: Matman]
StuyMac StuyMac Shit Hawks are Coming!! Wiki Guide Registered: 24th Nov 2003 Posts: 5759 Loc: Wirral	Im just trying to stay on a budget to get the car saorted at the moment - the seats dont need to be FIA, so even out of date seats are considered. Im not very wide, so I dont need a big seat, but it will need 5 harness holes, and to be side mounted. Coilovers Im ordering are rebranded Leda from the US _________________________ Racing is life, everything that happens before, and after, is just waiting. Saving Race Tokens
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#183261 - 6th Nov 2007 12:46pm Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: StuyMac]
Matman Matman Newbeee Registered: 6th Nov 2007 Posts: 38 Loc: Ellesemere Port	I will have alook in the catalouge for you $;\)$ and lead are good, i use them on the sapp, although iam selling them soon in favour of custom rally spec gaz suspension. $\:D$ _________________________ http://www.mda-motorsport.co.uk 275bhp and 320lb/ft rally monster that is my Sapphire Cosworth 170bhp and 165lb/ft @ 105mph that is my 2.0ltr Zetec Escort Si
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#183885 - 9th Nov 2007 10:09am Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: Matman]
StuyMac StuyMac Shit Hawks are Coming!! Wiki Guide Registered: 24th Nov 2003 Posts: 5759 Loc: Wirral	Well, I think I have sussed the exhaust noise problem with the car $;\)$ Quietens the exhaust right down, and its as free flowing as a regular straight through box $\:\)$ Just need to get the damn Americans to get back to me with a shipping price _________________________ Racing is life, everything that happens before, and after, is just waiting. Saving Race Tokens
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#184454 - 11th Nov 2007 7:50pm Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: StuyMac]
StuyMac StuyMac Shit Hawks are Coming!! Wiki Guide Registered: 24th Nov 2003 Posts: 5759 Loc: Wirral	Well, here the first stages of lightening the car... Rear trim stripped: ...and a lightweight Carbon boot $;\)$ _________________________ Racing is life, everything that happens before, and after, is just waiting. Saving Race Tokens
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#184455 - 11th Nov 2007 7:58pm Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: StuyMac]
fordsteve fordsteve Forum Addict Registered: 27th Jan 2007 Posts: 2126 Loc: wirral bromborough	good work mate what next then _________________________
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#184457 - 11th Nov 2007 8:36pm Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: fordsteve]
jonah jonah Forum Guardian Registered: 29th Nov 2006 Posts: 3981 Loc: 1313 Mockingbird Lane, I live ...	lookin good matey... _________________________ http://www.myspace.com/jonah1974 stevejones74@hotmail.co.uk "WELL MY NUTS ARE HALFWAY UP MY ASS, BUT OTHER THAN THAT I'M PERFECT.....! "
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#184470 - 11th Nov 2007 9:23pm Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: jonah]
spinking spinking Forum Guardian Registered: 11th May 2004 Posts: 4208 Loc: Happy Home	OOO carbon Nice sticker aswell stu whats next _________________________
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#184537 - 12th Nov 2007 12:56am Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: spinking]
StuyMac StuyMac Shit Hawks are Coming!! Wiki Guide Registered: 24th Nov 2003 Posts: 5759 Loc: Wirral	Well, I have the following on order now: 6 Prong paddle clutch with Ali Flywheel Twin Loop back box (To try and get the noise down) OMP Cage 6 Point Harness Coilovers Ive also got a seat coming from an Impreza rally car. As soon as the cage arrives, Ill strip the rest of the car, fit the seat and harness, in the mean time, Ill get the clutch kit, coilovers and exhaust fitted. That really just leaves the Extinguisher and cut off as essentials, but Ill also be looking in to new, adjustable suspension arms, and some better brake pads for race use $\:\)$ _________________________ Racing is life, everything that happens before, and after, is just waiting. Saving Race Tokens
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#184556 - 12th Nov 2007 10:05am Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: StuyMac]
BMW Joe BMW Joe Hardcore Shrimp Joy Wiki Guardian Registered: 30th Apr 2006 Posts: 9532 Loc: Birkenhead	coming along very quickly. me likes it _________________________
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#184567 - 12th Nov 2007 10:45am Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: BMW Joe]
Scotty69 Scotty69 Smartchild Registered: 25th Oct 2004 Posts: 471 Loc: born and bred in Birkenhead	iv heard a lot of good things about the twin loop systems, a few lads on the civic forums have fitted them and theyv said they are a lot quieter than Spoon N1 exhausts n stuff. nice bit of carbon there as well lol.
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#184607 - 12th Nov 2007 4:53pm Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: Scotty69]
nissan_kyle nissan_kyle Forum Addict Registered: 27th Dec 2006 Posts: 1257 Loc: wirral	nice motor mate
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#185080 - 15th Nov 2007 10:06am Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: nissan_kyle]
StuyMac StuyMac Shit Hawks are Coming!! Wiki Guide Registered: 24th Nov 2003 Posts: 5759 Loc: Wirral	New Clutch and flywheel arrived yesterday $\:\)$ While the box is off, Im also looking at a higher ratio final drive. The new Integra Type R uses a 4.7, but Im maybe trying to get something even higher so I can shorten all the gears so they are better suited to track use. If the Box is coming off for the clutch, may as well burst it open and swap the final drive at the same time if I can find something suitable $\:\)$ _________________________ Racing is life, everything that happens before, and after, is just waiting. Saving Race Tokens
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#185084 - 15th Nov 2007 10:43am Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: StuyMac]
StuyMac StuyMac Shit Hawks are Coming!! Wiki Guide Registered: 24th Nov 2003 Posts: 5759 Loc: Wirral	Just found this: Its a 4.928 - which may well suit my needs - just waiting on a price inc the shipping $;\)$ _________________________ Racing is life, everything that happens before, and after, is just waiting. Saving Race Tokens
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#185089 - 15th Nov 2007 12:38pm Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: StuyMac]
BMW Joe BMW Joe Hardcore Shrimp Joy Wiki Guardian Registered: 30th Apr 2006 Posts: 9532 Loc: Birkenhead	ooo getting a bit technical for me, but looks very shiney $\:D$ _________________________
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#185115 - 15th Nov 2007 1:12pm Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: BMW Joe]
CustomIce CustomIce The IceMan commeth Wise One Registered: 3rd Dec 2006 Posts: 831 Loc: Wirral	Looks like its starting to really come together mate $\:\)$ good stuff! _________________________ ICE sales and installation: http://www.customice.co.uk
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#185215 - 16th Nov 2007 10:51am Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: CustomIce]
StuyMac StuyMac Shit Hawks are Coming!! Wiki Guide Registered: 24th Nov 2003 Posts: 5759 Loc: Wirral	Ive just found another final drive - a 4.785, so Im just debating which one to actually fit. The currecnt ratios are as follows: (All based on 8250rpm max and 195/55/15 tyres) 1st Gear 3.23:1 40.74MPH 2nd Gear 2.105:1 62.52MPH 3rd Gear 1.458:1 90.26MPH 4th Gear 1.107:1 118.88MPH 5th Gear 0.848:1 155.18MPH Final Drive 4.4 The 4.785 offers: 1st Gear 3.23:1 37.46MPH 2nd Gear 2.105:1 57.49MPH 3rd Gear 1.458:1 83MPH 4th Gear 1.107:1 109.31MPH 5th Gear 0.848:1 142.7MPH Final Drive 4.785 The 4.928 offers: 1st Gear 3.23:1 36.16MPH 2nd Gear 2.105:1 55.48MPH 3rd Gear 1.458:1 80.1MPH 4th Gear 1.107:1 105.5MPH 5th Gear 0.848:1 137.72MPH Final Drive 4.928 Shortening your gearing, in effect increases the torque per gear, which gives accelaration. The car is never going to max out the std gears on a track (a doubt it even max out on a private runway), so I may as well trade some of the top speed off for acceleration, question is, how much to trade off, ie, go for the 4.785 or the 4.928. The 4.928 will give greater acceleration, but will it ever max out and Ill be sitting on a limiter, or over revving the car for too long on the straights of some circuits _________________________ Racing is life, everything that happens before, and after, is just waiting. Saving Race Tokens
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#185219 - 16th Nov 2007 11:43am Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: StuyMac]
Auditastic Auditastic Wise One Registered: 16th Oct 2007 Posts: 796 Loc: wirral	depends on the circuit surely stu...id be tempted to go with the 4.928 and give it a good thrashing on a open circuit... surely its not that much hassle to have both 4.785 and a 4.928 set up in different boxes ready to go...and just switch them out as and when the circuit dictates.. the acceleration is what you want really as once your in front you can defend your line/position.... as for worrying about sitting on a limiter or over reving he engine...its a honda civic..they are bulletproof! just mho!
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#185221 - 16th Nov 2007 11:58am Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: Auditastic]
StuyMac StuyMac Shit Hawks are Coming!! Wiki Guide Registered: 24th Nov 2003 Posts: 5759 Loc: Wirral	TBH Im swaying to the 4.928, though once its in, it staying in! The boxes are expensive - as are the final drives,(Mine is a very rare LSD one) and its a ball ache to get the box out. You ideally need to lower the front subframe to get it out which helps, but its by no means easy. Its also a very heavy box, and the reason for changing the final drive now is because Im fitting the clutch at the same time. Price wise they are the same, and both will be much better than std - I guess I just want to make the most of what I spend on the final drive. Edited by StuyMac (16th Nov 2007 12:00pm) _________________________ Racing is life, everything that happens before, and after, is just waiting. Saving Race Tokens
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#185222 - 16th Nov 2007 12:21pm Re: StuyMac: Honda Civic VTi - SiR Race car. [Re: StuyMac]
Auditastic Auditastic Wise One Registered: 16th Oct 2007 Posts: 796 Loc: wirral	i see your logic..whats the worst that could happen..put it in and give the car a good thrashing and see what happens. But Im sure there is a way of making the box easier to swap tho...bolt in sections of the subframe etc etc...if your gonna keep this little beastie a while prehaps it would be worth getting a second box with the 4.785 set up...surely while expensive to outlay...youd get your money back by selling it on if you werent using it!
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