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#161862 - 11th Jul 2007 12:37am Help, I need a better phone
WADDI WADDI Forum Master Registered: 11th Jul 2004 Posts: 2902 Loc: Wallasey	I currently have a Nokia 6630, OK, now that everyone has stopped laughing. I have had it for 2 years and I think its at the end of its life, battery dying all the time, have tried a new battery and that does the same. I dont want to spend much but obviously want a better phone, was considering the Nokia 6280 0r N80 of fleabay or second hand. wish list is: at least 2meg camera with flash big screen for image viewing and video watching, to be able to input mutiple numbers/info under one contact name cheap to buy not locked to or branded 3 or Virgin any comments or advise gratefully recieved Waddi _________________________ This week I've been mostly listening to: Facebook : Yahoo Mail : Sky Mail
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#161863 - 11th Jul 2007 2:14am Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: WADDI]
Pomp Pomp Forum Veteran Registered: 19th Aug 2005 Posts: 4968 Loc: Wirral	I tend to prefer Samsung and Sony Ericsson phones as I think they are quality phones. Sony Ericsson wont have that many big screens but camera and flash they have, also multiple numbers/info imput. lets set it out like this: Most Sony Ericsson phones: Have: good/excellent camera's but varies depending on the phone. Able to input multiple numbers/info am pretty sure they are cheap, as you can get ones that go brand new from £40 but camera is ok as said camera varies due to dif phones. Most of Sony Ericssons dont have that much of a big screen as nokia's do so that the only disadvantage in your case but has lots of gd features and gadgets inside. Samsung: They have a quite resonable size screen, they are stylish i wud say and i think they would of have all ur requirements but they dont have as much gadgets on it as Nokia's and Sony Ericsson do, so i would recommend a Samsung except the e900 or D900 which camera just aint good. they are good but u have to be still as a frozen pea to take a good pic otherwise u will get a distort pic or how ever you would say it. So Samsung i would say wil have all your requirements so i vote Samsung. Nokia's tend to be expensive unless your looking for second hand, an i have had some bad experiences with them, as the Nokia N70 i last had was quite large and slipery that i droped it numerious times an the screen jst went on me so i have had screens going lots so i gave up on Nokia phones. Just wait for other oppinions tho, but then again if you decide to buy a samsung phone or any phone just make sure that u dont unwrap everything. The trick is buy a phone an make sure that the wrappers are all where they sud be and test the fone out and if you dont like it then jst simply return it in its original order and ask for a refund or change for another fone. _________________________ Pomp
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#161867 - 11th Jul 2007 7:27am Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: Pomp]
AX_125 AX_125 Forum Master Registered: 10th Nov 2003 Posts: 2868 Loc: Home	Samsung are better quality phone, my previous D600 is the best phone I have ever had (far better than Sony K750i). I still have it and might consider selling it, but the screen is quite scratched. _________________________ I am a signature virus, copy me into your signature to help me spread.
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#161872 - 11th Jul 2007 9:13am Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: AX_125]
BMW Joe BMW Joe Hardcore Shrimp Joy Wiki Guardian Registered: 30th Apr 2006 Posts: 9532 Loc: Birkenhead	Originally Posted By: Waddi battery dying all the time, have tried a new battery and that does the same. It's the way you charge it that retains it's life. With Ni-Cad (Nickel Cadmium) batteries (most older phones), they work best being fully charged and then fully depleated before being recharged again. If you overcharge the battery i.e. charge it ever night even when it doesnt need charging, it's life tends to lessen. This applies to all rechargable devices which use Ni-Cad batteries. Newer phones and devices use Ni-MH (Nickel Metal Hydride) batteries. These are much better at coping with being over charged and hold their battery life longer. Originally Posted By: AX_125 Samsung are better quality phone, my previous D600 is the best phone I have ever had same here, but im sure matty will big up nokia and totally dismiss any samsung compared lol. i'd say d600 too, but as pomp says, camera is quite slow taking high quality pics _________________________
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#161874 - 11th Jul 2007 9:49am Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: WADDI]
MattLFC MattLFC Wiki Master Registered: 14th Aug 2004 Posts: 16427 Loc: Moreton/E.Port/Mobile	Originally Posted By: Waddi wish list is: 1. at least 2meg camera with flash 2. big screen for image viewing and video watching, 3. to be able to input mutiple numbers/info under one contact name 4. cheap to buy 5. not locked to or branded 3 or Virgin Tbh mate, forget every other phone looking at the wish list, you want the K800i. 1. No other phone on the market incorporates a real xenon flash. I wasnt aware that the D600 had a flash - it may have a little shitty LED light, but not a flash by any stretch of the imagination. The K800i is still to this day, by most mobile phone review sites, regarded as the best phone camera on the market, and is used as a benchmark for new phones to compete against. Its a 3.2 megapixel, has a decent sensor and although a lot of the Cybershot brand is spin, they have made a quality product. The Cybershot software however is quality, with features such as BestPic, Photofix and of course the PictBridge printing feature only usually found on proper digital camera's. 2. It has an incredible screen, its very big, perfect for watching videos (mine was the James Bond limited edition handset and came with trailers etc). 3. Im pretty sure all modern phones can do this. 4. It depends what you consider cheap. Cheap could be anything to anyone. If you mean cheap as in less then £50, then theres no chance with the K800i. But if you mean cheap as in around the £100 mark, there are plenty of new ones going on eBay from reputable power sellers for this price. Also, the price has started to be hammered by the release of the K810i (same phone, different buttons/style), and with the K850 on the way, the price is only set to drop even further. 5. K800's like every phone can come both locked or unlocked, and both branded or unbranded. Just check when buying. If you get the N80, it WILL be locked to the network, and its BB5 protection, so its an absolute pain to release the service lock (i dont think the market do it for instance). Hehe, the 6630 was a good phone tbh, I had one a few years back and it was the best phone Nokia made until the N93 came along. The only problem I ever found with it (apart from the usual problems associated with phone camera's) was that the camera suffered from vignetting, but my 6680 did also, so I assume it was to do with the lens/sensors they were using at the time. Still, for a Symbian phone, it was fast. Joe, I dont generally recommend Nokia's as they dont make the best phones in many sectors. However, if you want the highest end phones that do everything, Nokia is the ONLY way to go without getting a PDA, if you want a simple phone that just does the basics and does them well, Nokia is again the ONLY way to go. Nokia's also dont excel at any one aspect, however when it comes to Symbian phones, considering Nokia are responsible for the whole S60 source nowadays, and they have the most experience, then Nokia's are the only way to go for Symbian, except if you want S90, where the P900 etc are better, although some Nokia E series phones are arguably as good. _________________________ My MySpace \| My Bebo \| My Personal Blog \| Rhea's Boobs \| My Photography Website \| R.I.P Corky
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#161875 - 11th Jul 2007 10:02am Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: BMW Joe]
MattLFC MattLFC Wiki Master Registered: 14th Aug 2004 Posts: 16427 Loc: Moreton/E.Port/Mobile	Originally Posted By: BMW Joe Originally Posted By: Waddi battery dying all the time, have tried a new battery and that does the same. It's the way you charge it that retains it's life. With Ni-Cad (Nickel Cadmium) batteries (most older phones), they work best being fully charged and then fully depleated before being recharged again. If you overcharge the battery i.e. charge it ever night even when it doesnt need charging, it's life tends to lessen. This applies to all rechargable devices which use Ni-Cad batteries. Newer phones and devices use Ni-MH (Nickel Metal Hydride) batteries. These are much better at coping with being over charged and hold their battery life longer. Huh? Lol, Joe, no phones have used NiCd for maybe 10 years now, and Li-ion has been the chosen technology for the most part since the millenium, even my Siemens S25i, which was released in 1998, has a 750mAh Li-ion battery. NiCd isnt even a good a technology for phones, as they are low power draining, dont require surge currents and dont need to have extremely low levels of self-discharge, which basically wipes any advantages of NiCd out and puts at a severe disadvantage when compared to higher capacity Li-ion and NiMh. In my experience, my K800 was a beast for battery life, its officially quoted at 15 days standby time. If you use it on a GSM network (ie. not 3), then it will offer upto about 8 hours talktime. If you wish to use it on a UMTS network, then like most phones, the battery life will decrease significantly, it will drop to around the 2hr 30 mark for talktime, the standby time remains about 15 days though. The beauty of the K800i is that you can select which network standard to lock to, so if you are on any of the GSM networks, you can use it in GSM mode for awsome battery life, or UMTS if you want the features that brings with it (of course phones like the D600 can't handle UMTS anyway). I think the D600 and K800i are about equal when it comes to GSM talktime battery life, although the K800i has slightly better official ratings (maybe 20 minutes longer), they are both around the 7 hour mark. The K800i is about 2 days longer standby time then the D600. BTW, whether the phone is NiMh or Li-Ion, their charging systems are very advanced, and do not allow "overcharging" (not that it happens on Li-ion anyway). Once the battery is fully charged, most phones simply trickle charge, except for the odd one or two which instead just stops the charge altogether. $\:\)$ _________________________ My MySpace \| My Bebo \| My Personal Blog \| Rhea's Boobs \| My Photography Website \| R.I.P Corky
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#161876 - 11th Jul 2007 10:26am Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: MattLFC]
Wheels Wheels Forum Guardian Registered: 4th Jan 2005 Posts: 4295 Loc: birkenhead	Nokia N95 super dooper smiley smashing fone! but i think im the only one that likes it $\:p$ _________________________ Wheels's Hobby fund for 2009 = £55.33 of £2000
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#161877 - 11th Jul 2007 10:35am Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: Wheels]
MattLFC MattLFC Wiki Master Registered: 14th Aug 2004 Posts: 16427 Loc: Moreton/E.Port/Mobile	Originally Posted By: whelan Nokia N95 super dooper smiley smashing fone! but i think im the only one that likes it $\:p$ Its arguably the best Symbian S60 phone on the market atm, it deffo has the widest range of features and applications as standard, and deffo contains the most up to date technology. The only problems it has its its price tag (which is the same for all high phones to be fair) and the fact whilst it does a million things, it doesnt particualy excel in any single aspect/feature. For the price tag of N95, unless I required the GPS, id go for the N93i myself, but the N93i is a lot bigger phone, thanks mainly to its 3x optical zoom camera. I love the screen options on the N93/N93i though. I assume with the N95 being Nokia though, it will still have crystal sound quality on calls however?? $\:\)$ _________________________ My MySpace \| My Bebo \| My Personal Blog \| Rhea's Boobs \| My Photography Website \| R.I.P Corky
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#161878 - 11th Jul 2007 11:22am Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: MattLFC]
AX_125 AX_125 Forum Master Registered: 10th Nov 2003 Posts: 2868 Loc: Home	Camera with D600 can't compare with K800. The D600 is about 2.5 years old now, it was released a similar time as the K750i but was IMO a far better phone. For a cheap cheap phone I would recommend one, if you have a bit mor then i would recommend a K810i or even a D900 _________________________ I am a signature virus, copy me into your signature to help me spread.
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#161879 - 11th Jul 2007 12:02pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: AX_125]
BMW Joe BMW Joe Hardcore Shrimp Joy Wiki Guardian Registered: 30th Apr 2006 Posts: 9532 Loc: Birkenhead	Originally Posted By: MattyC Huh? Lol, Joe, no phones have used NiCd for maybe 10 years now, and Li-ion has been the chosen technology for the most part since the millenium, even my Siemens S25i, which was released in 1998, has a 750mAh Li-ion battery. NiCd isnt even a good a technology for phones, as they are low power draining, dont require surge currents and dont need to have extremely low levels of self-discharge, which basically wipes any advantages of NiCd out and puts at a severe disadvantage when compared to higher capacity Li-ion and NiMh. haha yeah, sorry my bad. I've not had many phones and I just remember my first one having a Ni-cad battery and it was utter shat. Li-ion batteries still dont last long when you charge them when theyre not fully discharged. _________________________
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#161881 - 11th Jul 2007 12:32pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: AX_125]
Pomp Pomp Forum Veteran Registered: 19th Aug 2005 Posts: 4968 Loc: Wirral	Yeh i like the D600's always wanted one but neva got around to getting one, then I ended up with a e900 some how (shrugs). The D900 has quite a big screen but if you use the camera alot i wudnt recommend it for indoor but outdoor be ok i think. Originally Posted By: MattyC I wasnt aware that the D600 had a flash Am not sure about the D600's with flashes but on the e900 ther is a setting you can either make it flash or make the light turned on permanent So to make things clear all the phones menstioned above are: Samsung D600 - Around £80 brand new Samsung D900 - About £120+ brand new Sony Ericsson K750i - Around £80 brand new Sony Ericsson K800i - About £130 brand new (Prices are from Carphonewarehouse website so its around that price range but i wudnt say its fully accurate) Theres more but Matty jst natters an throws a bunch of expensive phone models on. . I missed the nokia's because there expensive as ever! N95 is like £460+ The most in favor are: Samsung D600 Sony Ericsson K800i It just depends on the price as Matty has said but overall Matty wud win with the choice of the K800i as it is a far better phone but for the amazing value of the D600 you cant beat a Bargain $;\)$ _________________________ Pomp
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#161882 - 11th Jul 2007 12:52pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: Pomp]
MattLFC MattLFC Wiki Master Registered: 14th Aug 2004 Posts: 16427 Loc: Moreton/E.Port/Mobile	Originally Posted By: Pomp Theres more but Matty jst natters an throws a bunch of expensive phone models on. . I missed the nokia's because there expensive as ever! N95 is like £460+ Ahem, excuse me Gnaeus, it was Whelan who bought the Nokia's into play lol! I didnt mention them till he mentioned the N95. To be fair to the N95, it is that price tag simply because technically, it is far superior to the K800i/D600/D900, I mean it even has a GPS chip and EU mapping software on it. Not to mention the powerful processor and large high res screen etc... But its a totally different phone, aimed at a totally different market. $\:\)$ _________________________ My MySpace \| My Bebo \| My Personal Blog \| Rhea's Boobs \| My Photography Website \| R.I.P Corky
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#161891 - 11th Jul 2007 4:51pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: MattLFC]
WADDI WADDI Forum Master Registered: 11th Jul 2004 Posts: 2902 Loc: Wallasey	K800i had a go with one of these, great camera but the screen is too small and I'm pretty sure the k800i doesnt have mutiple input for one contact. Matty, I notice you say you had a 6680, do you still have it, is it for Sale? Waddi _________________________ This week I've been mostly listening to: Facebook : Yahoo Mail : Sky Mail
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#161892 - 11th Jul 2007 4:56pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: WADDI]
MattLFC MattLFC Wiki Master Registered: 14th Aug 2004 Posts: 16427 Loc: Moreton/E.Port/Mobile	No sorry matey, got rid about 2 years ago, I used to love Symbian phones, had the 6600, 6630, 6680 and then the N70. But I got the K800i cos I realised all I use a phone for really is making calls and sending texts. Sold me K800i for £320 just before Christmas lmao! _________________________ My MySpace \| My Bebo \| My Personal Blog \| Rhea's Boobs \| My Photography Website \| R.I.P Corky
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#161901 - 11th Jul 2007 5:29pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: MattLFC]
WADDI WADDI Forum Master Registered: 11th Jul 2004 Posts: 2902 Loc: Wallasey	didnt think the 6680 was symbian... I mainly send texts, few phone calls, take photos, view 3mp photos that have been taken on my digital camera then transferred to my phone via my laptop, view lengthy video that has been converted to 3gp, listen to mp3's but would like to be able to listen to WMA aswell. _________________________ This week I've been mostly listening to: Facebook : Yahoo Mail : Sky Mail
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#161905 - 11th Jul 2007 5:35pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: WADDI]
MattLFC MattLFC Wiki Master Registered: 14th Aug 2004 Posts: 16427 Loc: Moreton/E.Port/Mobile	Yeah, the Symbian Series 60 phones started with the Nokia 7650, then the 6600 came along which really started the Symbian success story, then the 3650, then the 7610 and 6670, then the 6630, then the 6680, then the N70/N90 and onwards and upwards, and Nokia made Symbian such a success and so popular, that now they are actually responsible for the whole S60 format, and any manufacturer that wishes to use S60 has to get it from Nokia now. $\:\)$ _________________________ My MySpace \| My Bebo \| My Personal Blog \| Rhea's Boobs \| My Photography Website \| R.I.P Corky
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#162185 - 14th Jul 2007 10:29pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: MattLFC]
WADDI WADDI Forum Master Registered: 11th Jul 2004 Posts: 2902 Loc: Wallasey	is a Nokia 6288 worth £90? _________________________ This week I've been mostly listening to: Facebook : Yahoo Mail : Sky Mail
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#162198 - 14th Jul 2007 11:15pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: WADDI]
Mark Mark Wiki Master Registered: 9th Nov 2003 Posts: 14969 Loc: Wirral	Ref E-bay for price guide or google $;\)$ _________________________ www.wikiwirral.co.uk For Sale items are listed on +25 websites Sharing knowledge with members and friends.
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#162282 - 15th Jul 2007 7:53pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: Mark]
WADDI WADDI Forum Master Registered: 11th Jul 2004 Posts: 2902 Loc: Wallasey	Anyone got a BenQ-Siemens EL71, are they any good? _________________________ This week I've been mostly listening to: Facebook : Yahoo Mail : Sky Mail
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#162302 - 15th Jul 2007 11:52pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: WADDI]
MattLFC MattLFC Wiki Master Registered: 14th Aug 2004 Posts: 16427 Loc: Moreton/E.Port/Mobile	BS arnt too bad, for the most part they are quite high tech, but since about the 5x series, a lot of products were rushed to market and the phones "can be" (not always the case though) quite buggy. I used to love Siemens mobiles, the phones were rock solid and they were real innovators until about late 2002 (they had an impressive line of firsts including first colour screen, first MP3 player phone, first slider phone, first MMC phone, first WAP phone [albeit WAP1.0] first GPRS phone, first HSCSD phone, first quad band phone, first phone incorporating GPS etc..), then they just kind of lost their way. BS went bankrupt at the end of January (Benq bought Siemens Mobile in 2005, but branded as Benq-Siemens until 2008 as part of a marketing strategy) so there is no support offered for the phones now, so any problems that do exist, will remain for good. Just something to be aware of. _________________________ My MySpace \| My Bebo \| My Personal Blog \| Rhea's Boobs \| My Photography Website \| R.I.P Corky
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#162317 - 16th Jul 2007 1:46pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: MattLFC]
Sanchez Sanchez Forum Guardian Registered: 17th Dec 2003 Posts: 4231 Loc: my house	im selling this one, did me fine :- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V...73628&rd=1&rd=1 _________________________ "Are you from the ministry of no wha i'm sayins, you countin the amount of no wha i mean's"
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#163372 - 21st Jul 2007 7:47pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: Sanchez]
WADDI WADDI Forum Master Registered: 11th Jul 2004 Posts: 2902 Loc: Wallasey	Sorry sanchez fella, that doesnt meet my wish list.... Anyone have any dealings with a Sony Ericsson W850i, What are they like? _________________________ This week I've been mostly listening to: Facebook : Yahoo Mail : Sky Mail
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#163373 - 21st Jul 2007 7:59pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: WADDI]
MattLFC MattLFC Wiki Master Registered: 14th Aug 2004 Posts: 16427 Loc: Moreton/E.Port/Mobile	i was playing about with my mates W850 the other day, it is exactly the same as the K800i, but a little more bulky in the hand. It also feels slightly less in the way fo build quality, more plasticy and less stylish (in my humble opinion). He used to have a K800i and was moaning because the camera's on the W850 isnt as good even though its a newer phone. The reason for that of course is because the K800 is built around its camera, whereas the W850 is built around its MP3 player (hence the K800 is a CyberShot and the W850 is a Walkman). Dont be fooled though, the K800 uses exactly the same software and DSP as the W850 for its MP3's, the only real difference is the W850 has slightly better spec headphones included (thats not saying the ones with the K800i were cheap in way, they were quite expensive, to give you some idea of what I mean, if they were to be bought in the shops they would be like £15 - £20, whereas the W850i would be like £20 - £25). The screensize on both phones is the same, as is the rest of the software and hardware, except the camera of course, the K800 is far superior. Between the two I would go for the K800i and my mate agreed with me. Although having said that, he has had 3 W850's cos he keeps losing phones lol, so he keeps going back to them (dunno if he has it insured though, which would be the reason he keeps gettin the same one instead of going back to the K800). $\:\)$ _________________________ My MySpace \| My Bebo \| My Personal Blog \| Rhea's Boobs \| My Photography Website \| R.I.P Corky
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#163375 - 21st Jul 2007 8:01pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: MattLFC]
WADDI WADDI Forum Master Registered: 11th Jul 2004 Posts: 2902 Loc: Wallasey	I'm keen on a slider tho..... _________________________ This week I've been mostly listening to: Facebook : Yahoo Mail : Sky Mail
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#163377 - 21st Jul 2007 8:09pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: WADDI]
MattLFC MattLFC Wiki Master Registered: 14th Aug 2004 Posts: 16427 Loc: Moreton/E.Port/Mobile	In which case, id either go for it, or wait for the next generation which may feature the same camera hardware as the K800i. Unfortunatly at present Sony havent decided to place the K800i camera into a slider - its a bit of a surprise really, they should have done it with the K810 instead of the stupid buttons they used. _________________________ My MySpace \| My Bebo \| My Personal Blog \| Rhea's Boobs \| My Photography Website \| R.I.P Corky
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#163382 - 21st Jul 2007 8:17pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: MattLFC]
WADDI WADDI Forum Master Registered: 11th Jul 2004 Posts: 2902 Loc: Wallasey	what would you go for out of: SE W850i Nokia 6688 I would love a Nokia N80 but the price is too high! Edited by Waddi (21st Jul 2007 8:17pm) _________________________ This week I've been mostly listening to: Facebook : Yahoo Mail : Sky Mail
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#163387 - 21st Jul 2007 8:19pm Re: Help, I need a better phone [Re: WADDI]
jonah jonah Forum Guardian Registered: 29th Nov 2006 Posts: 3981 Loc: 1313 Mockingbird Lane, I live ...	do u want one on contract ? _________________________ http://www.myspace.com/jonah1974 stevejones74@hotmail.co.uk "WELL MY NUTS ARE HALFWAY UP MY ASS, BUT OTHER THAN THAT I'M PERFECT.....! "
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#163388 - 21st Jul 2007 8:21pm